Conversations From Sessions Live: Julia Samuel on Grief | Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel @estherperel

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On this week's episode of Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel: Esther presents another talk you have to hear from her recent clinical conference, Sessions Live. Listen in as Julia Samuel speaks on "Eros and Thanatos: Love, Grief, and the Forces that Shape Us".

Julia Samuel MBE is a leading UK psychotherapist who worked for decades in the NHS. She is Founder Patron of Child Bereavement UK an organization she played a significant part for 25 years. Julia was given an Honorary Doctorate by Middlesex University in 2017. Appointed Commissioner of the UK Commission on Bereavement 2021. Julia has written three books, all Sunday Times bestsellers: Grief Works, This Too Shall Pass, and Every Family Has a Story; and has a podcast Therapy Works.

Her presentation of grief is a must-listen.

These talks were recorded at Esther Perel’s Annual Sessions Live event, entitled Mating in the Metacrisis: Connection, Polarization, and Eroticism in a World on Edge. For more information on the event and how you can watch it now, please go to estherperel.com

About Where Should We Begin?:
Every Monday morning, step into the office of iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel and listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories. From breakups and open relationships to workplace conflicts and fractures in the family, it’s a place to hear our own stories reflected in the lives of others.

About Esther Perel:
Psychotherapist, relationship expert, and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 40 million views and her bestselling books, Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs, are global phenomena translated into more than 30 languages. Esther is also the host of the hit podcast Where Should We Begin? which is available on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at EstherPerel.com or by following @EstherPerelOfficial on Instagram.

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