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On this week's episode of Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel: Twin brothers come to Esther with a shared question: how do they break free from the conflict that has shaped their relationship for years? One feels smothered, the other abandoned, and together they are caught in a cycle of pursuit and withdrawal that neither knows how to escape. With Esther, they explore how to loosen the grip of old roles and find each other again, not just as twins, but as two distinct people learning how to stay connected without losing themselves.
Chapters
00:00 Can Twins Ever Stop Mirroring Each Other?
01:25 Meet Michael And Tyler
03:44 Why Does One Twin Always Pull Away?
05:48 Did Childhood Illness Shape Their Bond Forever?
07:29 Did Coming Out Create A Lasting Rupture?
08:43 What Happens When You Grow Up A “Miracle Kid”?
10:20 Why Is Reconnecting Always So Bumpy?
11:42 Why Does Love Never Feel Like Enough?
14:29 What If The Hunger Isn’t About Him?
19:24 What Happens When The “Problem” Finally Speaks?
21:21 Can Shame Turn Love Into Burden?
22:58 Am I A Person Or Just A Problem To Fix?
24:23 Why Does Every Phone Call Feel So Loaded?
27:23 Are They Talking Like Brothers Or Therapists?
31:22 What Did They Lose When Childhood Ended?
34:13 Has One Twin Always Envied The Other?
36:27 What Happens When Identical Twins Become Different People?
40:08 Can They Let Go Of Being Each Other’s Mirror?
42:55 Is His Recklessness Really About Feeling Alive?
44:41 What’s Hiding Beneath The Resentment?
About Where Should We Begin?:
Every Monday morning, step into the office of iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel and listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories. From breakups and open relationships to workplace conflicts and fractures in the family, it’s a place to hear our own stories reflected in the lives of others.
About Esther Perel:
Psychotherapist, relationship expert, and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 40 million views and her bestselling books, Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs, are global phenomena translated into more than 30 languages. Esther is also the host of the hit podcast Where Should We Begin? which is available on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at EstherPerel.com or subscribe to her Substack Entre Nous for bonus content.
On this week's episode of Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel: Twin brothers come to Esther with a shared question: how do they break free from the conflict that has shaped their relationship for years? One feels smothered, the other abandoned, and together they are caught in a cycle of pursuit and withdrawal that neither knows how to escape. With Esther, they explore how to loosen the grip of old roles and find each other again, not just as twins, but as two distinct people learning how to stay connected without losing themselves.
Chapters
00:00 Can Twins Ever Stop Mirroring Each Other?
01:25 Meet Michael And Tyler
03:44 Why Does One Twin Always Pull Away?
05:48 Did Childhood Illness Shape Their Bond Forever?
07:29 Did Coming Out Create A Lasting Rupture?
08:43 What Happens When You Grow Up A “Miracle Kid”?
10:20 Why Is Reconnecting Always So Bumpy?
11:42 Why Does Love Never Feel Like Enough?
14:29 What If The Hunger Isn’t About Him?
19:24 What Happens When The “Problem” Finally Speaks?
21:21 Can Shame Turn Love Into Burden?
22:58 Am I A Person Or Just A Problem To Fix?
24:23 Why Does Every Phone Call Feel So Loaded?
27:23 Are They Talking Like Brothers Or Therapists?
31:22 What Did They Lose When Childhood Ended?
34:13 Has One Twin Always Envied The Other?
36:27 What Happens When Identical Twins Become Different People?
40:08 Can They Let Go Of Being Each Other’s Mirror?
42:55 Is His Recklessness Really About Feeling Alive?
44:41 What’s Hiding Beneath The Resentment?
About Where Should We Begin?:
Every Monday morning, step into the office of iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel and listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories. From breakups and open relationships to workplace conflicts and fractures in the family, it’s a place to hear our own stories reflected in the lives of others.
About Esther Perel:
Psychotherapist, relationship expert, and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 40 million views and her bestselling books, Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs, are global phenomena translated into more than 30 languages. Esther is also the host of the hit podcast Where Should We Begin? which is available on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at EstherPerel.com or subscribe to her Substack Entre Nous for bonus content.
