Uploaded September 2018 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Note: This is testing done on the PTS server so there might be changes every week, up until the official release, which is probably in 4-5 weeks or so. I'll try to update this if there is a large change.
Recently I uploaded a video in which I suggested that Stamina Warden could directly match the Stamina Nightblade in Single Target DPS (seen here: youtube.com/watch?v=dKsfSM1H4x0). But for many, I guess it is also hard to believe since Stamblade has been the meta for so long. We thought it would be informative to directly compare the two classes. The AOE potential of a Stamina Warden is quite likely to be higher than of the Stamina Nightblade, which is more reasonable to accept.
For each test, we had the Stamblade on 3 Bloodthirsty Jewelry Traits as a control variable - under the assumption that this combination is really good and makes the most of the Stamblade's execute phase. The Stamina Warden had varying traits for each test. The goal was to see the interaction between trait and DPS, and possibly find the best combination for both for the fastest fight. The gear worn by both players were identical, including traits and enchants of weapons, and we also ensured to expend roughly same amount of Stamina for each fight - ending the fight with around 40-60% sustain since we are in Lava Food (sustain is pretty even for both classes in this PTS version compared to live).
Stam Warden Build (only jewelry traits changed throughout) - https://i.imgur.com/AJRJlqE.jpg
I am playing as the Stamina Warden, and fellow Hodor/former Xbox EU scrub, Seb (@Web_Silliams), is playing as the Stamina Nightblade (he is definitely one of the best). His channel: youtube.com/channel/UCURCVgzTNBdYATKza8KOvnQ
Warden (3BT): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,478 (13,183,454 in 3:49.4)
https://i.imgur.com/57xD1Hj.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 55,394 (12,722,605 in 3:49.7)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696333174439936/unknown.png
Warden (2INF 1BT): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,357 (12,975,499 in 3:46.2)
https://i.imgur.com/zHwfQnm.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 56,913 (12,917,675 in 3:47.0)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696561818533888/unknown.png
Warden (3INF): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 56,399 (12,772,888 in 3:46.5)
https://i.imgur.com/98vzLQg.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,742 (13,064,244 in 3:46.2)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696403953319936/unknown.png
As you can see, the two classes are pretty even
The less Bloodthirsty used by the Stamina Warden, the longer the execute phase. This could play a role in the reason behind the Stamblade's higher DPS with less Bloodthirsty used by the Stamina Warden. It's probably hard to make definitive conclusions based on these tests since we only did one of each, but it seems to confirm that you'll get more group DPS with a Stamina Warden using 1 Bloodthirsty (We didn't test 2 Bloodthirsty, but this would also be pretty good). Of course there is a small degree of human error involved since we both have a pretty bad connection to the PTS, and in the end, the difference in traits is so small, that it wouldn't be fair to make definitive conclusions from this.
As a side note, we also did one test where I used Ballista on the Stamina Warden - it was around 1-2k DPS less than the Bear, so thankfully the Warden is pretty viable even without the bear.
Stamina Warden and Stamina Nightblade are both in a really good spot now. The Stamina Nightblade is not miles better than other classes anymore, both in terms of sustain and damage, which is really nice. Hopefully, other Stamina classes will prove to be just as viable as these two, by the time Murkmire is officially released.
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Note: This is testing done on the PTS server so there might be changes every week, up until the official release, which is probably in 4-5 weeks or so. I'll try to update this if there is a large change.
Recently I uploaded a video in which I suggested that Stamina Warden could directly match the Stamina Nightblade in Single Target DPS (seen here: youtube.com/watch?v=dKsfSM1H4x0). But for many, I guess it is also hard to believe since Stamblade has been the meta for so long. We thought it would be informative to directly compare the two classes. The AOE potential of a Stamina Warden is quite likely to be higher than of the Stamina Nightblade, which is more reasonable to accept.
For each test, we had the Stamblade on 3 Bloodthirsty Jewelry Traits as a control variable - under the assumption that this combination is really good and makes the most of the Stamblade's execute phase. The Stamina Warden had varying traits for each test. The goal was to see the interaction between trait and DPS, and possibly find the best combination for both for the fastest fight. The gear worn by both players were identical, including traits and enchants of weapons, and we also ensured to expend roughly same amount of Stamina for each fight - ending the fight with around 40-60% sustain since we are in Lava Food (sustain is pretty even for both classes in this PTS version compared to live).
Stam Warden Build (only jewelry traits changed throughout) - https://i.imgur.com/AJRJlqE.jpg
I am playing as the Stamina Warden, and fellow Hodor/former Xbox EU scrub, Seb (@Web_Silliams), is playing as the Stamina Nightblade (he is definitely one of the best). His channel: youtube.com/channel/UCURCVgzTNBdYATKza8KOvnQ
Warden (3BT): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,478 (13,183,454 in 3:49.4)
https://i.imgur.com/57xD1Hj.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 55,394 (12,722,605 in 3:49.7)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696333174439936/unknown.png
Warden (2INF 1BT): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,357 (12,975,499 in 3:46.2)
https://i.imgur.com/zHwfQnm.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 56,913 (12,917,675 in 3:47.0)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696561818533888/unknown.png
Warden (3INF): Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 56,399 (12,772,888 in 3:46.5)
https://i.imgur.com/98vzLQg.png
Nightblade: Target Centurion, Lambent - DPS: 57,742 (13,064,244 in 3:46.2)
cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423133441060503565/492696403953319936/unknown.png
As you can see, the two classes are pretty even
The less Bloodthirsty used by the Stamina Warden, the longer the execute phase. This could play a role in the reason behind the Stamblade's higher DPS with less Bloodthirsty used by the Stamina Warden. It's probably hard to make definitive conclusions based on these tests since we only did one of each, but it seems to confirm that you'll get more group DPS with a Stamina Warden using 1 Bloodthirsty (We didn't test 2 Bloodthirsty, but this would also be pretty good). Of course there is a small degree of human error involved since we both have a pretty bad connection to the PTS, and in the end, the difference in traits is so small, that it wouldn't be fair to make definitive conclusions from this.
As a side note, we also did one test where I used Ballista on the Stamina Warden - it was around 1-2k DPS less than the Bear, so thankfully the Warden is pretty viable even without the bear.
Stamina Warden and Stamina Nightblade are both in a really good spot now. The Stamina Nightblade is not miles better than other classes anymore, both in terms of sustain and damage, which is really nice. Hopefully, other Stamina classes will prove to be just as viable as these two, by the time Murkmire is officially released.
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Track: Showdown - Freedom (feat. IMAN) [NCS Release]
Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.
Watch: youtu.be/eqtnSO1y-oo
Free Download / Stream: ncs.io/FreedomYO





![Vengeful. - Magicka Warden PVE (87k) - Harrowstorm - ESO
Edit 24th Feb: Filmed in Dragonhold but updated for Harrowstorm. Not much has changed - sustain is better, but this is the main one: Glacial Presence: This passive now also increases your Critical Damage against enemies and Critical Healing against allies who have been recently afflicted with the Chilled status effect. Expect BETTER DPS from Magicka Warden in Harrowstorm!
This is a Magicka Warden PVE build and Iron Atronach Parse for the Dragonhold/Harrowstorm patch.
Magicka Warden offers more utility than ever before in Dragonhold, which makes them more useful than ever before (if there is no Warden support player in the group, at least). The Screaming Cliff Racer can set the enemy off-balance and Fetcher Infection will now apply Minor Vulnerability. Winters Revenge now becomes one of the strongest AOEs in the game. The Bear also remains one of the strongest ultimate in the game for sustained damage, but again it leaves the class very reliant on it.
This rotation was performed by @stileanima. Check out her channel, especially for Healing and End-game raiding content.
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0ZrF6282tJGZboWa2IwCHg
I am using the Max Magicka/Magicka Regen food, with 64 points into Magicka for all Magicka Setups in these rotations.
Gear used here:
5x Mothers Sorrow Body, 5x Siroria front-barred, 2x Zaan. (See build screenshot for full details).
The above is used simply for purposes of comparison against other classes, in this test environment.
Race used: Altmer
Good alternatives: Breton, Dunmer, Khajiit
In real raid situations, consider Clockwork Citrus Fillet or Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl as food alternatives.
Other gear that is perfectly suitable for different situations include:
False God, Spell Strategist, New Moon Acolyte, Master Architect
CMX Parse, Build (Gear, Skills, CPs), Superstar from Video https://imgur.com/a/ZMI8uyF
Rotation:
This rotation is all about getting the best blend of direct damage and damage over time. Here we choose to keep up Unstable Wall, Winters Revenge, Scalding Rune, Barbed Trap, Fetcher Infection and Degeneration for our DOTs. Then we fit in as much Deep Fissure and Screaming Cliff Racer (Birbs) as possible.
Here @stileanima chooses to cast Deep Fissure more or less 1-in-3 casts. Seeing as I am describing a dynamic rotation here I shall say that generally, in-between, there is a cast of a DOT, of which Unstable Wall and Winters Revenge hold the highest priority. Fetcher Infection is generally the next strongest, then really whatever else needs refreshing from the skills listed above. Throw the Birbs whenever there is nothing else that needs casting. Use the Bear Ultimate as soon as convenient.
If you notice that many DOTs run out at the same time, feel free to cast them consecutively, and skipping a Deep Fissure cast. In previous patches, Ive noticed that casting Deep Fissure 1-in-4 is not too different than 1-in-3 if it means a better uptime in DOTs. There can also the occurence that your Deep Fissure damage does not hit if you try 1-in-3 with slight mistimings just so you know.
Proposed Static Rotation
Start:
Netch - Trap
Repeat:
Shalk - Wall - Winter
Shalk - Fetcher - Degeneration
Shalk - Scalding - Spam - Spam/Netch/Trap (Alternate Netch and Trap, if sustain is good, use a Spam)
Spam = Birb or Bear Ulti
About alternative skills that I did not use in this video:
Mystic Orb - a must-have skill if you want to include more AOE damage into your setup. Upsides also include a nice group synergy, but the downside is the high resource cost.
Inner Light (front-barred) - if you want a simpler rotation, you could drop one of the DOTs (for example Degeneration) and include Inner Light on the front bar.
Elemental Blockade - using this morph instead of Unstable Wall can also be a decent option. This option offers more cleave allows slightly better sustain by allowing you to cast this skill less frequently, and more so other cheaper skills.
Consuming Trap - a DOT that can help sustain if used in trash fights or on smaller mobs in Boss Fights, due to the resource return.
Channeled Acceleration - if you prefer this over Barbed Trap, this is fine. Magicka sustain will suffer a little but might be easier to use in some cases.
Flame Reach - if you wanted to add another single-target DOT. Provides some extra sources of Burning damage and cost is relatively cheap, but the damage isnt as good as some other options.
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![ESO - [MC] - vHOF Pinnacle Factotum - 2:03 Fight - Likลya - Magblade - Wolfhunter
A fight from 2nd Boss in vHOF, sort of close to perfect but not quite, from a team perspective. Since I was the only Magicka DD that stayed downstairs the whole time, it was my role to kill the conduits (with a little help from others). Pretty bad conduit RNG in this fight, sometimes it spawns right underneath the boss, sometimes on the other side of the map (it was the case every time in this fight).
Id imagine the top groups will soon change the way they do this boss during this patch.
I didnt manage to save this exact parse, but I have a Combat Metrics Parse from a different fight where I do the same role (60.4k/53.3k) - https://i.imgur.com/itkVVoL.png
Build for this fight (Note: I swapped between Shock and Absorb Magicka Glyph on Backbar) https://i.imgur.com/dwO6qI7.png
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![Magicka Sorcerer 1-Pet PVE (87k+) - Dragonhold - ESO
This is a Magicka Sorcerer 1-Pet PVE build and Iron Atronach Parse for the Dragonhold patch.
The 1-Pet Magicka Sorcerer (generally) brings the best balance of damage and practicality out of the different setups. For this reason, it has been the most popular setup, and maybe it will continue to be this way. Having said, the damage difference between various Magicka Sorcerer setups look to be smaller than we have seen in while too. Magicka Sorcerer has received a set of changes which brings it away from the style of rotation from Scalebreaker, and a little bit closer to that from Elsweyr and the few patches previously.
Thanks to @Aerenel, who raids with Wipes on Trash (WoT) PC/NA, for providing these parses. His Discord ID is @Aerenel#8604 should you want to ask him about Magicka Sorcerer.
Here are the other MagSorc parses from Dragonhold, again kindly provided by @Aerenel.
2-Pet Magicka Sorcerer video here https://youtu.be/8ckdDI6V1uk
No-Pet Magicka Sorcerer video here https://youtu.be/moyPcWL4zlA
I am using the Max Magicka/Magicka Regen food, with 64 points into Magicka for all Magicka Setups in these rotations.
Gear used here:
5x Mothers Sorrow Body, 5x Siroria front-barred, 2x Zaan. (See build screenshot for full details).
The above is used simply for purposes of comparison against other classes, in this test environment.
Race used: Altmer
Good alternatives: Breton, Dunmer, Khajiit
In real raid situations, consider Clockwork Citrus Fillet or Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl as food alternatives.
Other gear that is perfectly suitable for different situations include:
False God, Spell Strategist, New Moon Acolyte, Burning Spellweave, Necropotence
CMX Parse, Build (Gear, Skills, CPs), Superstar from Video https://imgur.com/a/XdRZ56R
Rotation
Focus on keeping a great up-time with Unstable Wall. Cast Daedric Prey on cooldown, so every 6 seconds, but never before. This skill is useful to keep up because it has a relatively low Magicka cost, and also gives a damage boost to your Twilight and Atronach Ultimate. Beyond that, Keep up Barbed Trap and Boundless Storm, which is also great for its utility. This means youll be more optimal when playing as close to melee whenever possible. You can try some of the alternative skills below if you are more comfortable at range. Use Elemental Weapon as your spammable and Crystal Fragments as frequently as possible. You can easily switch out the Twilight for the Scamp, if you wish to have a more imvolved rotation, or for fights where the extra cleave from the Scamp may be better!
Proposed Static Rotation:
12-second Rotation as the base structure.
Start:
Boundless - Barbed Trap
Wall - Prey - Boundless/Spam - Spam - Spam - Spam/Barbed Trap
Spam - Prey - Spam - Spam - Spam - Spam/Barbed Trap
Spam = Elemental Weapon / Crystal Frags / Ultimate / Spell Symmetry - use whichever is most suitable at any given moment
Every other rotation, alternate Boundless Storm with Spam.
Cast Barbed Trap every 1.5 rotations, at spots where Spam/Barbed Trap is written.
About alternative skills. This is for Magicka Sorcerer in general:
Mystic Orb - a must-have skill if you want to include more AOE damage into your setup. Upsides also include a nice group synergy, but the downside is the high resource cost.
Flame Reach - if you wanted to add another single-target DOT. Provides some extra sources of Burning damage and cost is relatively cheap, but damage isnt as good as some other options.
Scalding Rune - another option for an alternative DOT. More damage per cast than Flame Reach but also costlier.
Liquid Lightning / Lightning Flood - an AOE ability which provides a unique synergy for the group. Costs more than it did in the previous patch.
Bound Aegis - if you want a simpler rotation, you could drop a DOT.
Inner Light - same as above, but Bound Aegis is better.
Shield (e.g Empowered Ward) - you could replace a DOT or Spell Symmetry if you can make a setup to sustain without if you wanted to include a shield.
Elemental Blockade - using this morph instead of Unstable Wall can also be a decent option. This option offers more cleave, and a longer duration, therefore better sustain, since this skill is costly.
Consuming Trap - a DOT that can help sustain if used in trash fights or on smaller mobs in Boss Fights, due to the resource return.
Channelled Acceleration - if you prefer this over Barbed Trap, this is fine. Magicka sustain will suffer a little but might be easier to use in some cases.
Power/Critical Surge - an ability which is primarily used for the healing. Power Surge also provides Major Sorcery for yourself.
Scamp - check out the other Pet Sorc videos, linked above for 2-Pet Sorc. Or you can replace the Twilight with the Scamp directly.
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