Uploaded March 2021 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
I had this idea while I was watching one of the many YouTube videos about Zelda secrets that mention how every 10 Stalchildren you kill in one night, an increasingly bigger one spawns.
Basically, if there's a text box on screen, time of day doesn't advance. You can then use WWT to move around and kill enemies while time is frozen.
I tried to think of a way to use a text box with multiple options, like Saria's Song's or FW's. That would allow to press B to swing the sword without closing the text. Unfortunately I had to settle for Inventory Overstuffing to use No Mask.
Obviously this is recorded with Citra, but on my 3DS, starting from Debug file, overstuffing No Mask was kinda long because I also needed to Child BA Zelda's Letter in order to open the Mask Shop.
Also, for original OoT this should work the same, and getting Sold Out on a C button is much easier than equipping No Mask here :)
As MrCheeze pointed out, in OoT you could also pause buffer through the entire day to prevent the game from resetting the Stalchildren size, but imagine how tedious it would be to do that not only once, but every 20-30 kills too.
I had this idea while I was watching one of the many YouTube videos about Zelda secrets that mention how every 10 Stalchildren you kill in one night, an increasingly bigger one spawns.
Basically, if there's a text box on screen, time of day doesn't advance. You can then use WWT to move around and kill enemies while time is frozen.
I tried to think of a way to use a text box with multiple options, like Saria's Song's or FW's. That would allow to press B to swing the sword without closing the text. Unfortunately I had to settle for Inventory Overstuffing to use No Mask.
Obviously this is recorded with Citra, but on my 3DS, starting from Debug file, overstuffing No Mask was kinda long because I also needed to Child BA Zelda's Letter in order to open the Mask Shop.
Also, for original OoT this should work the same, and getting Sold Out on a C button is much easier than equipping No Mask here :)
As MrCheeze pointed out, in OoT you could also pause buffer through the entire day to prevent the game from resetting the Stalchildren size, but imagine how tedious it would be to do that not only once, but every 20-30 kills too.
![OoT: Broken Gorons Sword as child [1.0 exclusive]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OnqGraFBuR0/mqdefault.jpg "OoT: Broken Gorons Sword as child [1.0 exclusive]
This allows Max% Child to get a higher upgrade in the adult trade slot and also obtain a new item, Spirit Medallion with RBA. It can only be done on the 1.0 version due to being able to interrupt the put away animation (like for Blank A).
[Edit: it can now be done in any version, even OoT3D (which doesnt need this anyway): https://youtu.be/p5TobxoMAQc]
I found this while researching the stuff I showed in this video (https://youtu.be/0sznvpLTwqs), so you can watch that if youre interested.
Basically this works because if you break the Carpenters boss NPC by interrupting his dialog, hell keep thinking youre talking to him. Using something that makes a choice selection appear (Sarias Song), you can then tell him you selected the first option, which he can only interpret as yes I want to trade in the Poachers saw.
This does not work with other NPCs like King Zora or Fado, so you cant get Eyeball Frog or Poachers Saw the same way.
Explanation of the inputs:
1)Perform DF Canceling normally, so drop a bomb, quickspin, use Dins Fire before the spin disappears, press A the frame before getting hit (2nd explosion frame as child if you shield dropped the bomb).
If you use other methods, like Lens of Truth, remember that you need an item in hand for the next step.
Important thing to note is that you cannot pause buffer the A press, because you cant talk to NPCs out of a buffer.
2)Use a deku nut the frame after pressing A. This will interrupt the put away animation (1.0 exclusivity), canceling the dialog and letting you move around with Speak A. Pressing A now will softlock, but you can pause to remove Speak A if you want.
3) Use any trade item or magic beans in such a way that the carpenter will be culled when you close the text box.
4) Uncull the carpenter and play Sarias Song, then select the first option. If youre too far the collection trigger will still spawn, just get close to him to obtain the sword.
This method to get Speak A works the same as the Open A I had found for chests (Zombie Hovering), so the explanation about the interaction flag is there: https://youtu.be/JSHppr-zWC8.
(Also, you cannot use the 1.0 nut throw to get Zombie Hovering with any chest, because ground jumps disable buttons)")
