Uploaded September 2019 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
I show a couple of oddities related to the Song of Storms and the Sun's Song.
This time I wrote captions on the video instead of explaining everything in the description. Here's some additional information.
Both of these things work the same in vanilla OoT.
Stealing SoS:
I have no idea what causes the text box thing [edit: here's the explanation youtu.be/-hBYC7xm9Nw], but it doesn't work as child in vanilla, so I assume it doesn't in 3D either (it would've been so cool if you could do this for Max% Child)
The trick only works if you haven't learned SoS normally yet, and you can re-do it infinite times as long as you don't watch the cutscene that starts after the auto-play (but you need to reload the room every time). This makes SoS the fourth song you can learn infinite times I think, the others being Sun's Song, Saria's Song and Epona's Song (because you can learn those ones every time you don't have them in the inventory).
Sun's Song Storage:
I mentioned this in the video, this trick only works if you play the song in the corridor and then go to Twinrova's room; it doesn't work if you play the song in the first room and then go to Twinrova because opening the door to the corridor somehow cancels the effect. Every other thing I tried (using spells, dying with a fairy, ...) does not cancel it.
Other than Spirit Temple Boss, the only area where the dungeon/overworld state is room dependent is Dampé's grave: the windmill room is considered overworld, the other rooms are considered dungeon. In spite of this, the trick does not work there, probably because it requires a door between the rooms.
I show a couple of oddities related to the Song of Storms and the Sun's Song.
This time I wrote captions on the video instead of explaining everything in the description. Here's some additional information.
Both of these things work the same in vanilla OoT.
Stealing SoS:
I have no idea what causes the text box thing [edit: here's the explanation youtu.be/-hBYC7xm9Nw], but it doesn't work as child in vanilla, so I assume it doesn't in 3D either (it would've been so cool if you could do this for Max% Child)
The trick only works if you haven't learned SoS normally yet, and you can re-do it infinite times as long as you don't watch the cutscene that starts after the auto-play (but you need to reload the room every time). This makes SoS the fourth song you can learn infinite times I think, the others being Sun's Song, Saria's Song and Epona's Song (because you can learn those ones every time you don't have them in the inventory).
Sun's Song Storage:
I mentioned this in the video, this trick only works if you play the song in the corridor and then go to Twinrova's room; it doesn't work if you play the song in the first room and then go to Twinrova because opening the door to the corridor somehow cancels the effect. Every other thing I tried (using spells, dying with a fairy, ...) does not cancel it.
Other than Spirit Temple Boss, the only area where the dungeon/overworld state is room dependent is Dampé's grave: the windmill room is considered overworld, the other rooms are considered dungeon. In spite of this, the trick does not work there, probably because it requires a door between the rooms.
![OoT: Broken Gorons Sword as child [1.0 exclusive]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OnqGraFBuR0/mqdefault.jpg "OoT: Broken Gorons Sword as child [1.0 exclusive]
This allows Max% Child to get a higher upgrade in the adult trade slot and also obtain a new item, Spirit Medallion with RBA. It can only be done on the 1.0 version due to being able to interrupt the put away animation (like for Blank A).
[Edit: it can now be done in any version, even OoT3D (which doesnt need this anyway): https://youtu.be/p5TobxoMAQc]
I found this while researching the stuff I showed in this video (https://youtu.be/0sznvpLTwqs), so you can watch that if youre interested.
Basically this works because if you break the Carpenters boss NPC by interrupting his dialog, hell keep thinking youre talking to him. Using something that makes a choice selection appear (Sarias Song), you can then tell him you selected the first option, which he can only interpret as yes I want to trade in the Poachers saw.
This does not work with other NPCs like King Zora or Fado, so you cant get Eyeball Frog or Poachers Saw the same way.
Explanation of the inputs:
1)Perform DF Canceling normally, so drop a bomb, quickspin, use Dins Fire before the spin disappears, press A the frame before getting hit (2nd explosion frame as child if you shield dropped the bomb).
If you use other methods, like Lens of Truth, remember that you need an item in hand for the next step.
Important thing to note is that you cannot pause buffer the A press, because you cant talk to NPCs out of a buffer.
2)Use a deku nut the frame after pressing A. This will interrupt the put away animation (1.0 exclusivity), canceling the dialog and letting you move around with Speak A. Pressing A now will softlock, but you can pause to remove Speak A if you want.
3) Use any trade item or magic beans in such a way that the carpenter will be culled when you close the text box.
4) Uncull the carpenter and play Sarias Song, then select the first option. If youre too far the collection trigger will still spawn, just get close to him to obtain the sword.
This method to get Speak A works the same as the Open A I had found for chests (Zombie Hovering), so the explanation about the interaction flag is there: https://youtu.be/JSHppr-zWC8.
(Also, you cannot use the 1.0 nut throw to get Zombie Hovering with any chest, because ground jumps disable buttons)")
