Grassdigger | Skipping the First Paper Bag: A Christmas Miracle @grassdigger8695 | Uploaded August 2018 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
This is a continuation of this video: youtube.com/watch?v=xNHH5X8D_Fw
In that video, I showed how we can collect 197/201 treasures if we never crush the first paper bag. Be sure to watch the video if you don't know how I did this. Previously, I couldn't collect Courage Reactor, Utter Scrap, Temporal Mechanism, and Fossilized Ursidae. Let's see if we can collect some of these treasures!
HSS0136 was kind enough to comment on the previous video, informing me about a way to carry Temporal Mechanism and Fossilized Ursidae around the first paper bag! The method was found by ZEOKU on May 2014. Here's a video: youtu.be/SqRxUOPMjW8
The method is very inconsistent... I had to use savestates multiple times when collecting these treasures. I also don't have a good idea on why it works. However, I'm 99% sure that that the glitch depends on the treasure's position in relation to the nearest waypoint when the treasure is picked up. When the treasure is picked up nearby a waypoint, the Pikmin jerk the treasure to the side in order to pass through the waypoint. If the treasure is close enough, but not too close, the treasure continues to move sideways. This is my very basic understanding of this glitch. Note that the position by the waypoint changes depending on the treasure. The position for the Fossilized Ursidae is different than the position for Temporal Mechanism before the carry glitch happens. More information about carrying (such as what waypoints are and where they are located in Valley of Repose) can be found here: pikminwiki.com/Carrying#Paths
After I came up with this very basic understanding, I had the tools I needed to find a way to collect Utter Scrap using a similar method. I found a spot where the treasure would jerk sideways, so I experimented with picking up Utter Scrap in the vicinity of that spot. Eventually, Utter Scrap got carried straight to the landing site, right by the paper bag! It's interesting that this instance of the glitch acted very differently than the previous 2 instances, but I'll take it.
Now, Courage Reactor is all that remains. We can collect every other treasure in Valley of Repose. (In the area select screen, I had also skipped Rush Boots, which is because the napsack carry glitch in the landing site doesn't work with the Rush Boots. If Courage Reactor can be collected, then we can simply collect Rush Boots last.)
I looked for ways to collect Courage Reactor for a while. First, I tried using the same carry glitch that allowed the previous 3 treasures to be collected. There are a few waypoints in the path of Courage Reactor, and I was able to get Courage Reactor to be jerked sideways by 3 of them. However, I couldn't pull off the carry glitch. I have hope that it can work; however, there's a lot I don't know about the glitch. It's possible that the glitch doesn't work with smaller treasures, like Courage Reactor.
I also tried a method that's similar to Goo Clip. First, I spend a good chunk of time charging Courage Reactor with 4 groups of 19 whites. Charging was discovered by muratsubo: twitter.com/muratsubo/status/977499568085508096
First, I showed that Courage Reactor cannot fly over the paper bag, it always stops at the waypoint in front of the paper bag. Next, I tried having Courage Reactor clip through the invisible walls surrounding the paper bag, similar to Goo Clip: youtube.com/watch?v=RMbCLqP1p8Q
I could put Courage Reactor beside basically any section of the invisible wall surrounding the paper bag. However, I couldn't get it to clip through anywhere. I could put Courage Reactor in interesting locations, such as on the paper bag or the nearby block.
The most interesting thing that happened with this charging experiment occurs near the end of the video. For some reason, Courage Reactor started moving rapidly to the right, up in the air, and when it fell, it clipped through the ground, where the Pikmin continued to rapidly move it around before it hit the abyss. Then, it respawned along with a few Pikmin who were carrying it. I couldn't get this to happen again, but if the Pikmin could cooperate and carry the Courage Reactor towards the landing site while oob, it's possible that this could allow Courage Reactor to be collected. In the meantime, I'm not sure if collecting Courage Reactor is possible, but I believe that it will be found!
Here is the list of music used in this video (provided for free by YouTube):
Carol of the Bells, by Quincas Moreira
If I Had a Chicken, by Kevin MacLeod
Game Plan, by Bad Snacks
This is a continuation of this video: youtube.com/watch?v=xNHH5X8D_Fw
In that video, I showed how we can collect 197/201 treasures if we never crush the first paper bag. Be sure to watch the video if you don't know how I did this. Previously, I couldn't collect Courage Reactor, Utter Scrap, Temporal Mechanism, and Fossilized Ursidae. Let's see if we can collect some of these treasures!
HSS0136 was kind enough to comment on the previous video, informing me about a way to carry Temporal Mechanism and Fossilized Ursidae around the first paper bag! The method was found by ZEOKU on May 2014. Here's a video: youtu.be/SqRxUOPMjW8
The method is very inconsistent... I had to use savestates multiple times when collecting these treasures. I also don't have a good idea on why it works. However, I'm 99% sure that that the glitch depends on the treasure's position in relation to the nearest waypoint when the treasure is picked up. When the treasure is picked up nearby a waypoint, the Pikmin jerk the treasure to the side in order to pass through the waypoint. If the treasure is close enough, but not too close, the treasure continues to move sideways. This is my very basic understanding of this glitch. Note that the position by the waypoint changes depending on the treasure. The position for the Fossilized Ursidae is different than the position for Temporal Mechanism before the carry glitch happens. More information about carrying (such as what waypoints are and where they are located in Valley of Repose) can be found here: pikminwiki.com/Carrying#Paths
After I came up with this very basic understanding, I had the tools I needed to find a way to collect Utter Scrap using a similar method. I found a spot where the treasure would jerk sideways, so I experimented with picking up Utter Scrap in the vicinity of that spot. Eventually, Utter Scrap got carried straight to the landing site, right by the paper bag! It's interesting that this instance of the glitch acted very differently than the previous 2 instances, but I'll take it.
Now, Courage Reactor is all that remains. We can collect every other treasure in Valley of Repose. (In the area select screen, I had also skipped Rush Boots, which is because the napsack carry glitch in the landing site doesn't work with the Rush Boots. If Courage Reactor can be collected, then we can simply collect Rush Boots last.)
I looked for ways to collect Courage Reactor for a while. First, I tried using the same carry glitch that allowed the previous 3 treasures to be collected. There are a few waypoints in the path of Courage Reactor, and I was able to get Courage Reactor to be jerked sideways by 3 of them. However, I couldn't pull off the carry glitch. I have hope that it can work; however, there's a lot I don't know about the glitch. It's possible that the glitch doesn't work with smaller treasures, like Courage Reactor.
I also tried a method that's similar to Goo Clip. First, I spend a good chunk of time charging Courage Reactor with 4 groups of 19 whites. Charging was discovered by muratsubo: twitter.com/muratsubo/status/977499568085508096
First, I showed that Courage Reactor cannot fly over the paper bag, it always stops at the waypoint in front of the paper bag. Next, I tried having Courage Reactor clip through the invisible walls surrounding the paper bag, similar to Goo Clip: youtube.com/watch?v=RMbCLqP1p8Q
I could put Courage Reactor beside basically any section of the invisible wall surrounding the paper bag. However, I couldn't get it to clip through anywhere. I could put Courage Reactor in interesting locations, such as on the paper bag or the nearby block.
The most interesting thing that happened with this charging experiment occurs near the end of the video. For some reason, Courage Reactor started moving rapidly to the right, up in the air, and when it fell, it clipped through the ground, where the Pikmin continued to rapidly move it around before it hit the abyss. Then, it respawned along with a few Pikmin who were carrying it. I couldn't get this to happen again, but if the Pikmin could cooperate and carry the Courage Reactor towards the landing site while oob, it's possible that this could allow Courage Reactor to be collected. In the meantime, I'm not sure if collecting Courage Reactor is possible, but I believe that it will be found!
Here is the list of music used in this video (provided for free by YouTube):
Carol of the Bells, by Quincas Moreira
If I Had a Chicken, by Kevin MacLeod
Game Plan, by Bad Snacks
