N64 MST Normal LACS FA Route vs Dodongdoor Route Comparison @bakeneko8252
N64 MST Normal LACS FA Route vs Dodongdoor Route Comparison  @bakeneko8252
Uploaded June 2019 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
First, I timed an Adult Ganondoor route which is called "LACS FA route", then LACS FA route was 30-50 sec faster than old N64 route (1080 route): youtu.be/UTfYvtacIWA
But I noticed using Dodongdoor for LACS FA route seemed faster, so I timed Dodongdoor route then it was 13 sec faster than Normal LACS FA route as you can see in this video.
Route Doc (Normal LACS FAroute is sheet 3, Dodongdoor route is sheet 8): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CzkHUpx9kqeXHR22-8hDE612i2Kfi9xgiCRQNSHg0rw/edit?usp=sharing

Also there is using Ganon's Castle area for fire arrows instead of LACS. It was 6 sec slower than LACS but it can be faster with good RNG. I doubt if it's really worth to do though: youtu.be/_9LrcdPxM_w

Either way, Dodongdoor route has some problems like many extra equips for fairies, no nuts Jabu and Jabu WW with bombs is kinda annoying. Also I supposed 4 Hearts Fire by Shadow HC Skip for both route, but if you want to do 5 Hearts for safe, it would be disadvantage for Dodongdoor route since you would waste bombs and some time for damaging down before Jabu WW. So I'm not sure if it's really worth to do for now.
(EDIT) Adarax found using full charged spin is good for no nuts Jabu. Actually it doesn't save time but much easier. So no nuts is less cancer now at least: youtu.be/JaE7-b_Ox_E

Btw Dodongdoor route was supposed to get GTG chus for fire arrows first, but it was slower and harder than using LACS: youtu.be/7TVpmlUursI
Also I tested to get magic bean for damage buffering in Jabu WW, but it was slower: youtu.be/l18mArnyeJY
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N64 MST Normal LACS FA Route vs Dodongdoor Route Comparison

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