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HOW DO YOU KNOW YOUR ABUSIVE OR ADDICTED PARTNER HAS TRULY CHANGED?
They might make all kinds of claims about having changed.
—They insist they've changed.
—They may be angry that you don't see them trying.
—They may be pressuring you to move back in.
—They say they'd die for you.
—Friends/family may pressure you, "Don't you see how much he/she has changed?"
But those are all signs they have NOT changed.
Today we talk with Bob Hamp, MFT, about the
—3 steps the abuser or addict must do to restore trust, and the
—3 steps the victim must do to see if the change is real.
This is the Video 2 of 3 Videos on Martial Abuse:
Video 1: The Dynamics of Abuse youtu.be/2RFjxNzHbuE
Video 2: How Do I Know If My Spouse Has Really Changed? youtu.be/Cz085lbGi-I
Video 3: My Spouse is Attending Church Now but Have They Really Changed? - youtu.be/dEx-LRT-kYs
Bob's key principle: Abuse and codependency are all about the mis-assignment of responsibility.
Bob Hamp recommends the poorly behaving spouse must do these three things:
1. They must take responsibility for their own choices. They must go into detail to identify all aspects of their destructive choices. They need to tell you what their choices cost you (and your children, if any).
2. They must show empathy to the pain, humiliation, financial peril, or other injury their choices caused.
3. They must repeat #1 and #2 publicly over time, because it's likely they have convinced onlookers that YOU are responsible and that THEY are the victim.
FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF ABUSE and the ABUSE CYCLE, read Chapter 5 in "The Life-Saving Divorce" book. Paperback or eBook: amzn.to/3CCBsnr AUDIOBOOK: amzn.to/4f52Mh4
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. Since 1998, she has worked in churches in the Los Angeles area. She helps heartbroken people find strength, courage, and healing. For more than 25 years she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, addicted partners, and emotional abuse.
Herself the survivor of a toxic marriage, she walked through her own lifesaving divorce and was a single mother for many years. Today she is happily remarried. She is a graduate of Wheaton College with a degree in Bible and Christian Education.
For more information:
Website and Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
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What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for serious reasons: a pattern of sexual immorality, physical abuse, chronic emotional abuse, domestic violence, felony behavior, life-destroying addictions, or abandonment/neglect.
Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Paperback or eBook: amzn.to/3CCBsnr AUDIOBOOK: amzn.to/4f52Mh4
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HOW DO YOU KNOW YOUR ABUSIVE OR ADDICTED PARTNER HAS TRULY CHANGED?
They might make all kinds of claims about having changed.
—They insist they've changed.
—They may be angry that you don't see them trying.
—They may be pressuring you to move back in.
—They say they'd die for you.
—Friends/family may pressure you, "Don't you see how much he/she has changed?"
But those are all signs they have NOT changed.
Today we talk with Bob Hamp, MFT, about the
—3 steps the abuser or addict must do to restore trust, and the
—3 steps the victim must do to see if the change is real.
This is the Video 2 of 3 Videos on Martial Abuse:
Video 1: The Dynamics of Abuse youtu.be/2RFjxNzHbuE
Video 2: How Do I Know If My Spouse Has Really Changed? youtu.be/Cz085lbGi-I
Video 3: My Spouse is Attending Church Now but Have They Really Changed? - youtu.be/dEx-LRT-kYs
Bob's key principle: Abuse and codependency are all about the mis-assignment of responsibility.
Bob Hamp recommends the poorly behaving spouse must do these three things:
1. They must take responsibility for their own choices. They must go into detail to identify all aspects of their destructive choices. They need to tell you what their choices cost you (and your children, if any).
2. They must show empathy to the pain, humiliation, financial peril, or other injury their choices caused.
3. They must repeat #1 and #2 publicly over time, because it's likely they have convinced onlookers that YOU are responsible and that THEY are the victim.
FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF ABUSE and the ABUSE CYCLE, read Chapter 5 in "The Life-Saving Divorce" book. Paperback or eBook: amzn.to/3CCBsnr AUDIOBOOK: amzn.to/4f52Mh4
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. Since 1998, she has worked in churches in the Los Angeles area. She helps heartbroken people find strength, courage, and healing. For more than 25 years she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, addicted partners, and emotional abuse.
Herself the survivor of a toxic marriage, she walked through her own lifesaving divorce and was a single mother for many years. Today she is happily remarried. She is a graduate of Wheaton College with a degree in Bible and Christian Education.
For more information:
Website and Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/lifesavingdivorce.bsky.social
Facebook facebook.com/lifesavingdivorce
Instagram instagram.com/gretchenbaskerville
You Tube youtube.com/@lifesavingdivorce
Twitter twitter.com/GGBaskerville
What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for serious reasons: a pattern of sexual immorality, physical abuse, chronic emotional abuse, domestic violence, felony behavior, life-destroying addictions, or abandonment/neglect.
Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Paperback or eBook: amzn.to/3CCBsnr AUDIOBOOK: amzn.to/4f52Mh4
As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


![John Calvin Cared About Abused Wives | The Life-Saving Divorce
The famous Reformer John Calvin (1509-1564) was angry at men who abused their wives. He thought those tyrannical husbands should divorce and let their wives go free.
Heres how John Calvin translated Malachi 2:16 in his Geneva Bible:
If thou hatest her, [a]put her away, saith the Lord God of Israel, yet he covereth [b]the injury under his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore keep yourselves in your spirit, and transgress not.
His commentary on Malachi 2, gives this interpretation to Malachi 2:16 (the so-called God-Hates-Divorce verse):
Here John Calvin is talking directly to abusive husbands who try to hide their bullying behavior from God and others.
What else is this, he says, but to cover by a cloak your violence, or at least to excuse it? for ye do not openly manifest it: but God is not deceived, nor can his eye be dazzled by such a disguise: though then your iniquity is covered by a cloak, it is not yet hid from God; nay, it is thus doubled, because ye exercise your cruelty at home; for it would be better for robbers to remain in the wood and there to kill strangers, than to entice guests to their houses and to kill them there and to plunder them under the pretext of hospitality. This is the way in which you act; for ye destroy the bond of marriage, and ye afterwards deceive your miserable wives, and yet ye force them by your tyranny to continue at your houses, and thus ye torment your miserable wives, who might have enjoyed their freedom, if divorce had been granted them.
Treachery Behind Closed Doors: When A Person Ought to Feel Safe
Notice how Calvin says its one thing for a robber to kill a traveler in a forest out in the open, where that person knows there is danger. But its especially treacherous for a robber to offer hospitality and invite a guest into their home and then kill and pillage them. And yet this is what cruel men do to their wives. They pretend to honor the marriage bond, but instead they torment their wife under her own roof, secretly, hidden under a cloak, in the one place that ought to be safe. John Calvin says, God sees it, and he isnt dazzled by clever concealment. In fact, the concealment makes it twice as bad. It would be better to let the tormented wife go and enjoy her freedom.
DID YOU KNOW?
Malachi 2:16 was written about 500 BC. Between 500 BC and AD 1600, NOT ONE Bible translation interpreted that verse as God hates divorce or I have divorce? Heres the timeline of Malachi: http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/malachi
DISCUSSION BY TWO REFORMED PASTORS WHO CONDONE DIVORCE FOR ABUSE
https://cryingoutforjustice.blog/2014/05/22/thursday-thought/
LINK TO LIST OF OTHER PASTORS WHO CONDONE DIVORCE FOR ABUSE.
There are many pastors (including some Calvinists) who condone divorce for abuse: http://lifesavingdivorce.com/pastors-biblical-grounds-divorce/ John Calvin Cared About Abused Wives | The Life-Saving Divorce](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EO_Oo1TZSHI/mqdefault.jpg)
![Divorce is Gods Protection of Women in the Old Testament. Multi-language version
6-MINUTES: Did you know that God actually commanded divorce in cases where a husband refused to care for his wife at the minimum basic level? Here are two stories from the Old Testament that show how God used divorce to protect vulnerable low-status wives from coldhearted husbands.
1. God protected wives who had been enemy POWs captured in a battle. If a man chose to make a woman his wife, he had to give her the decency and respect of allowing for her to mourn for 30 days for her family before he could go to her (euphemism for sex). And if later on, he no longer wanted her as a wife (perhaps didnt want the expense of feeding and clothing her) he could not demote her to being a slave or sell her. He had to let her go wherever she wanted. She was free to remarry someone who would meet the minimum standards.
2. Lets just go straight to Scripture: Ex 21:7-11. This passage is the bedrock of Jewish marriage and divorce law in biblical times. It still is.
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money. (NIV)
God protected low-ranking wives. A low-ranking wife might be one who was used as a debt repayment. For example, a man who was in serious debt and couldnt repay his lender, might give his daughter to pay off the loan. This isnt a wife the lender necessarily wanted, was attracted to, or cared about, but the Law of Moses said he still had to meet minimum standards of care for her. Even if he took another wife, presumably someone he really did care about, he couldnt be miserly, negligent, or mean to Wife #1. He couldnt turn her into a slave and sell her. He was commanded to let her go, so she could marry someone else. The loan to her father was still deemed cancelled.
The ancient rabbis deduced that if a bondwoman (indentured servant) had those three rights, then the minimal rights of a free married woman are deduced. (p. 126, Women and Jewish Law, by Rachel Biale) Meaning that if you are a free married woman then those three are rights you have.
Thats the point Im making here. That God gave this protection of a low-status woman, and THAT sets the minimum standard for all wives.
Abuse is not okay in the Bible, and a man who abuses and/or neglects is commanded to let his wife go, meaning to divorce her.
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. For more than 20 years, she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, and emotional abuse. She helps heartbroken people find strength and courage and healing.
Her book, The Life-Saving Divorce is about the one-half of U.S. divorces that are for very serious reasons. She will give you optimism about your childrens future (nearly 8 in 10 children turn out fine after divorce, according to top researchers); and will help you understand emotional abuse, gaslighting, the abuse cycle, and tips for surviving high-conflict divorces.
FOR A DISCUSSION OF Bible verses on divorce, read Chapter 6 in The Life-Saving Divorce book.
Whats a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for the serious reasons: a pattern of chronic emotional abuse, infidelity, domestic violence, sexual immorality, felony behavior, neglect, substance abuse, etc.
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