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What happens when the person you've loved since childhood is suddenly gone — and you're left at 29 with three small children and no idea how to be an adult without them?
Courtney Pray Duke doesn't answer that question with easy comfort. She answers it with her life. Widowed after her husband Andrew was killed in a cycling accident, Courtney walked through the kind of loss that rewrites everything — and came out the other side not unscathed, but transformed.
In this episode, Courtney and Brian explore what grief and faith after losing a spouse actually looks like — not the sanitized version, but the raw, fog-filled, one-step-at-a-time reality. They find real common ground across their different frameworks (Courtney's deep Christian faith and Brian's evidence-based consciousness research) because at the end of the day, they're both after the same thing: hope that holds up.
In this episode we cover:
• Who Andrew was — the childhood friend who became her soulmate and the father of her children
• The moment the world went black and white — and the long fog that followed
• How faith shifted from head knowledge to a true lifeline in the darkest season
• The jagged, non-linear nature of grief and why there's no "right" timeline
• Signs and synchronicities that made her feel less alone in the wilderness
• Whether it's possible — and okay — to love again after losing a spouse
• Raising children who remember their father and keeping his memory alive
• How her pain became the foundation for her purpose and her new book
About Courtney Pray Duke
Courtney Pray Duke is an author, speaker, and widow who was widowed at 29 after her husband Andrew was killed in a cycling accident, leaving her with three young children. In the years since, she has built a life and a ministry centered on helping others find hope after devastating loss. Her newly released book, And She Got Up: Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus, tells her story with the kind of honesty that only comes from someone who has actually been through the fire.
🌐 Website: courtneyprayduke.com 📖 And She Got Up — available wherever books are sold
You've been listening. You're doing the work. But there's still this feeling that you're circling the same place.
Maybe you've thought about working with me one-on-one. Maybe something's held you back.
I get that. And I want you to know there's still a place for you.
All of it, pay what you want. You decide what it's worth. Nobody gets turned away because of money.
https://grief2g (grief2growth.com/store)
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I've been studying Near Death Experiences for many years now. I am 100% convinced they are real. In this short, free ebook, I not only explain why I believe NDEs are real, I share some of the universal secrets brought back by people who have had them.
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What happens when the person you've loved since childhood is suddenly gone — and you're left at 29 with three small children and no idea how to be an adult without them?
Courtney Pray Duke doesn't answer that question with easy comfort. She answers it with her life. Widowed after her husband Andrew was killed in a cycling accident, Courtney walked through the kind of loss that rewrites everything — and came out the other side not unscathed, but transformed.
In this episode, Courtney and Brian explore what grief and faith after losing a spouse actually looks like — not the sanitized version, but the raw, fog-filled, one-step-at-a-time reality. They find real common ground across their different frameworks (Courtney's deep Christian faith and Brian's evidence-based consciousness research) because at the end of the day, they're both after the same thing: hope that holds up.
In this episode we cover:
• Who Andrew was — the childhood friend who became her soulmate and the father of her children
• The moment the world went black and white — and the long fog that followed
• How faith shifted from head knowledge to a true lifeline in the darkest season
• The jagged, non-linear nature of grief and why there's no "right" timeline
• Signs and synchronicities that made her feel less alone in the wilderness
• Whether it's possible — and okay — to love again after losing a spouse
• Raising children who remember their father and keeping his memory alive
• How her pain became the foundation for her purpose and her new book
About Courtney Pray Duke
Courtney Pray Duke is an author, speaker, and widow who was widowed at 29 after her husband Andrew was killed in a cycling accident, leaving her with three young children. In the years since, she has built a life and a ministry centered on helping others find hope after devastating loss. Her newly released book, And She Got Up: Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus, tells her story with the kind of honesty that only comes from someone who has actually been through the fire.
🌐 Website: courtneyprayduke.com 📖 And She Got Up — available wherever books are sold
You've been listening. You're doing the work. But there's still this feeling that you're circling the same place.
Maybe you've thought about working with me one-on-one. Maybe something's held you back.
I get that. And I want you to know there's still a place for you.
All of it, pay what you want. You decide what it's worth. Nobody gets turned away because of money.
https://grief2g (grief2growth.com/store)
Want to go deeper? My Substack is where I share solo essays on grief, consciousness, and continuing bonds — thoughts that don't always make it into the podcast. It's also home to a community of listeners who get it, because they're living it too. Free to subscribe. Find it at substack.com/grief2growth. (grief2growth.com/substack)
I've been studying Near Death Experiences for many years now. I am 100% convinced they are real. In this short, free ebook, I not only explain why I believe NDEs are real, I share some of the universal secrets brought back by people who have had them.
grief2growth.com/ndelessons
Support the show (pages.grief2growth.com/products/grief-2-growth)
🧑🏿🤝🧑🏻 Join me on Substack (https://grief2growth.substack.com) - connect with others and me
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![When Grief Takes Everything- Vanessa May
What happens when grief doesnt just visit—but moves in and takes everything?
Vanessa May knows. She lost her son Harry at 24. Then, during the pandemic, she lost her husband, Anthony, and her father within weeks of each other—while battling COVID herself and unable to say goodbye in person.
Together, Brian and Vanessa explore:
✨ How compounded grief affects us emotionally, physically, and spiritually
✨ The trauma-body connection—including Vanessas cancer diagnosis 18 months after losing Harry
✨ Why resilience can feel like a stick to beat yourself with
✨ Earth school, soul planning, and the lessons hidden inside loss
✨ Continuing bonds with Harry and Anthony—and how they guide her still
This conversation is raw, honest, and deeply human. Its filled with hard-won wisdom for anyone who has ever felt like the ground has been ripped out from under them.
If youve ever asked:
Why did this happen to me?
How do I survive when grief keeps compounding?
Is it okay to still be struggling years later?
You are not alone—and this episode is for you. 🌱
👉 After listening, continue the conversation at grief2growth.substack.com
Share your reflections, leave a comment, and connect with others who understand.
🎧 Guest resources:
Vanessa May — https://VanessaMay.co.uk
Instagram: @may.wellbeing.griefsupport
Books: *Love Untethered*, *When Grief Takes Everything*, *Supporting Your Grieving Client*
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[CHAPTERS]
00:00 🌱 Introduction
03:34 💔 Who was Harry
10:05 🌊 When lightning strikes twice—losing Anthony during COVID
14:51 🫀 How grief lives in the body
17:30 💫 Metabolizing emotions and transforming pain
23:08 🔮 Soul planning and asking why me?
27:31 🧘 Surrender vs. giving up
31:50 ⚖️ Comparing losses—child vs. spouse
35:27 🏠 The loneliness of widowhood in middle years
40:01 📚 Earth school and spiritual bypassing
45:43 👭 The six women in Vanessas new book
49:05 ✨ Harry as a guide—continuing bonds
51:55 😤 Its okay to be angry at them
55:26 🌀 Living with uncertainty
1:01:07 💜 Hold it loosely, hold it lightly, hold it with love When Grief Takes Everything- Vanessa May](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uPcnXmb4Gds/mqdefault.jpg)




