Uploaded May 2023 | Updated September 2026, 3 hours ago
If art is the window to the soul, creating a mandala is indeed the roadmap that can show where you’ve been and where you’re going…
Artist and filmmaker Jonathan Nagel discusses a mandala he created for a recent Mandala Painting Workshop hosted by Angie and Paul, Light Bringer: Birth of Consciousness, in this very special Living 4D conversation. (Follow along with the conversation by checking out Jonathan’s mandala at jonathannageldesign.com/products/light-bringer-birth-of-consciousness-1.)
Learn more about Jonathan and his work via social media on Facebook (facebook.com/jonathan.nagel), Instagram (instagram.com/jonathannagel/) and YouTube (youtube.com/@jonathansnagel/featured).
For Living 4D listeners: Save 10 percent on a limited edition print of Jonathan’s 2023 mandala, Light Bringer: Birth of Consciousness at bit.ly/lightbringerart by using the promo code CHEK10 at checkout.
Also, if you need to unblock your creative force, Jonathan is offering Living 4D listeners a free 15-minute consultation call and discounts on longer consultations by using jonathannageldesign.com/scheduling.
Jonathan is also available for commissions and you can find some of his beautiful illustration work on his website (jonathannageldesign.com/).
0:00 Intro
10:11 Jonathan takes a giant leap of faith at age 26.
14:55 The challenge of creating something from nothing.
21:13 The process Jonathan took to develop his mandala for Paul’s seminar.
29:11 Art as an expression of living.
42:13 Aligning your art with your breath.
50:07 Are you an artist or an expressionist?
1:01:28 Art and your North Star.
1:18:34 The film of your life.
1:24:17 Fecundity in creativity.
1:35:08 “The sun is like an organ in our bodies from a spiritual perspective.”
1:57:41 Why Jonathan used so many Tarot symbols in his mandala.
2:13:56 A struggle with realignment and balance.
2:20:02 Dragons: The creators of consciousness.
Find more resources for this episode on our website at chekinstitute.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-243-jonathan-nagel-soul-art
Thanks to our awesome sponsors: CHEK Institute/Squat Assessment (chekinstitute.com/squat-assessment), Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20 percent on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout), Paleovalley paleovalley.com (save 15 percent on your purchase by using the code chek15 at checkout) and BiOptimizers magbreakthrough.com/living4d (save an extra 10 percent on your purchase by using the code PAUL10 at checkout).
If art is the window to the soul, creating a mandala is indeed the roadmap that can show where you’ve been and where you’re going…
Artist and filmmaker Jonathan Nagel discusses a mandala he created for a recent Mandala Painting Workshop hosted by Angie and Paul, Light Bringer: Birth of Consciousness, in this very special Living 4D conversation. (Follow along with the conversation by checking out Jonathan’s mandala at jonathannageldesign.com/products/light-bringer-birth-of-consciousness-1.)
Learn more about Jonathan and his work via social media on Facebook (facebook.com/jonathan.nagel), Instagram (instagram.com/jonathannagel/) and YouTube (youtube.com/@jonathansnagel/featured).
For Living 4D listeners: Save 10 percent on a limited edition print of Jonathan’s 2023 mandala, Light Bringer: Birth of Consciousness at bit.ly/lightbringerart by using the promo code CHEK10 at checkout.
Also, if you need to unblock your creative force, Jonathan is offering Living 4D listeners a free 15-minute consultation call and discounts on longer consultations by using jonathannageldesign.com/scheduling.
Jonathan is also available for commissions and you can find some of his beautiful illustration work on his website (jonathannageldesign.com/).
0:00 Intro
10:11 Jonathan takes a giant leap of faith at age 26.
14:55 The challenge of creating something from nothing.
21:13 The process Jonathan took to develop his mandala for Paul’s seminar.
29:11 Art as an expression of living.
42:13 Aligning your art with your breath.
50:07 Are you an artist or an expressionist?
1:01:28 Art and your North Star.
1:18:34 The film of your life.
1:24:17 Fecundity in creativity.
1:35:08 “The sun is like an organ in our bodies from a spiritual perspective.”
1:57:41 Why Jonathan used so many Tarot symbols in his mandala.
2:13:56 A struggle with realignment and balance.
2:20:02 Dragons: The creators of consciousness.
Find more resources for this episode on our website at chekinstitute.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-243-jonathan-nagel-soul-art
Thanks to our awesome sponsors: CHEK Institute/Squat Assessment (chekinstitute.com/squat-assessment), Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20 percent on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout), Paleovalley paleovalley.com (save 15 percent on your purchase by using the code chek15 at checkout) and BiOptimizers magbreakthrough.com/living4d (save an extra 10 percent on your purchase by using the code PAUL10 at checkout).









![The Evolution of Consciousness | John Churchill
Our world is way long overdue for a sacred revolution!
Teacher, Druid and psychologist John Churchill joins Paul on a deep exploration of human development and explains why a sacred revolution must take place to reclaim and transform our planet this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about John’s work and upcoming courses at his Planetary Dharma website at https://www.planetarydharma.com/ . Find him on social media via Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/planetarydharma/ .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Save 20 percent on John’s Introduction to Planetary Dharma: A Fourth Turning Path course July 18-20 at https://www.planetarydharma.com/summer-2025-intro-to-planetary-dharma to help you explore the awakening of the Bodhisattva within you!
0:00 Intro
6:17 “The kind of growth that I’m interested in is measured over years and decades, not in peak experiences [like plant medicines].”
9:07 Bodhisattva: John’s spiritual philosophy.
18:57 A good death.
24:32 Consciousness evolves but awareness doesn’t.
35:40 “Ninety percent of people should go to the monastery because they dont have a clue what theyre doing.”
41:33 Our evolutionary journey.
47:49 “The most interesting game in town is the individual.”
1:01:03 Intuition or direct non-conceptual valid cognition?
1:11:05 “You can get a good sense of a person’s level of development based on what techniques theyre attracted to.”
1:21:14 God consciousness or human consciousness.
1:37:31 Do you view levels of development as expressions of compassion?
1:43:37 “Psychology is dangerous.”
1:47:01 Do you have your own personal cosmology?
2:02:16 Love unfolding.
2:14:12 Participating in a hierarchy committed to transforming the planet.
2:25:37 We are still fighting the forces of darkness which isn’t metaphorical, so know who your friends are.
2:33:33 A university planet of truth, beauty and goodness.
2:41:06 Giving birth to synchronic technology.
2:54:21 “One million people in coherence are stronger than 6 billion people out of coherence.”
3:01:22 Being evolved doesn’t mean you don’t have a bunch of parts that haven’t evolved yet.
Listen to Pauls conversation with John Churchill and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at https://paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-341-john-churchill-the-evolution-of-consciousness/
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