Uploaded February 2025 | Updated September 2026, 5 hours ago
Paul has talked a lot about Spirit Gym for most of the past year, but not about how and why he created this life-changing program.
Jason Pickard — Paul’s best friend and best student — interviews Paul about the methodology behind Spirit Gym, why it’s important to know the difference between theory and real practice and recognize the most dangerous thing a student can say in this very special episode.
Learn more about Jason at his website at jasonpickard.org and via social media on Instagram at instagram.com/jasonpickardofficial . Check out his previous appearances on the podcast in episodes 192 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-192-jason-pickard-finding-soul , 236 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-236-jason-pickard-the-abundance-archetype and 282 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-282-jason-pickard-the-art-of-life-coaching .
0:00 Intro
3:23 Why it was important for Paul to launch Spirit Gym now.
17:08 Discerning theory versus practice.
24:58 Forming habits.
32:31 The most dangerous thing a student can say to Paul.
44:53 The underlying myth about why we’re here.
51:03 How to focus on what you really need to succeed in Spirit Gym and life.
1:00:04 How religion and spirituality fit into Spirit Gym.
1:08:47 Change starts with a simple formula.
1:19:36 Are you a child or a warrior?
1:36:35 “There’s no better investment to make than on yourself.”
1:46:59 The left-brain culture.
1:55:50 The people who contributed the most to Paul’s development of Spirit Gym.
2:05:41 Each religion contributes its own value to the understanding of God.
2:21:40 The Master Key.
2:29:49 The importance of myth.
2:35:45 Define consciousness.
2:45:11 The many groups of fours.
2:58:16 “I came here to create masters.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Jason Pickard and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-334-jason-pickard-interviews-paul-why-we-are-all-here
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
All Rights Reserved MusicFit Records 2024 at musicfitrecords.com
Paul has talked a lot about Spirit Gym for most of the past year, but not about how and why he created this life-changing program.
Jason Pickard — Paul’s best friend and best student — interviews Paul about the methodology behind Spirit Gym, why it’s important to know the difference between theory and real practice and recognize the most dangerous thing a student can say in this very special episode.
Learn more about Jason at his website at jasonpickard.org and via social media on Instagram at instagram.com/jasonpickardofficial . Check out his previous appearances on the podcast in episodes 192 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-192-jason-pickard-finding-soul , 236 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-236-jason-pickard-the-abundance-archetype and 282 at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-282-jason-pickard-the-art-of-life-coaching .
0:00 Intro
3:23 Why it was important for Paul to launch Spirit Gym now.
17:08 Discerning theory versus practice.
24:58 Forming habits.
32:31 The most dangerous thing a student can say to Paul.
44:53 The underlying myth about why we’re here.
51:03 How to focus on what you really need to succeed in Spirit Gym and life.
1:00:04 How religion and spirituality fit into Spirit Gym.
1:08:47 Change starts with a simple formula.
1:19:36 Are you a child or a warrior?
1:36:35 “There’s no better investment to make than on yourself.”
1:46:59 The left-brain culture.
1:55:50 The people who contributed the most to Paul’s development of Spirit Gym.
2:05:41 Each religion contributes its own value to the understanding of God.
2:21:40 The Master Key.
2:29:49 The importance of myth.
2:35:45 Define consciousness.
2:45:11 The many groups of fours.
2:58:16 “I came here to create masters.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Jason Pickard and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-334-jason-pickard-interviews-paul-why-we-are-all-here
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
• BiOptimizers bioptimizers.com/living4d (save an extra 10% on your purchase by using the code PAUL10 at checkout)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• Wild Pastures wildpastures.com/paulchek (save 20% and free shipping for life plus $15 on your first order)
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
All Rights Reserved MusicFit Records 2024 at musicfitrecords.com
