Uploaded April 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
Our world is way long overdue for a sacred revolution!
Teacher, Druid and psychologist John Churchill joins Paul on a deep exploration of human development and explains why a sacred revolution must take place to reclaim and transform our planet this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about John’s work and upcoming courses at his Planetary Dharma website at planetarydharma.com . Find him on social media via Instagram at instagram.com/planetarydharma .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Save 20 percent on John’s Introduction to Planetary Dharma: A Fourth Turning Path course July 18-20 at planetarydharma.com/summer-2025-intro-to-planetary-dharma to help you explore the awakening of the Bodhisattva within you!
0:00 Intro
6:17 “The kind of growth that I’m interested in is measured over years and decades, not in peak experiences [like plant medicines].”
9:07 Bodhisattva: John’s spiritual philosophy.
18:57 A good death.
24:32 Consciousness evolves but awareness doesn’t.
35:40 “Ninety percent of people should go to the monastery because they don't have a clue what they're doing.”
41:33 Our evolutionary journey.
47:49 “The most interesting game in town is the individual.”
1:01:03 Intuition or direct non-conceptual valid cognition?
1:11:05 “You can get a good sense of a person’s level of development based on what techniques they're attracted to.”
1:21:14 God consciousness or human consciousness.
1:37:31 Do you view levels of development as expressions of compassion?
1:43:37 “Psychology is dangerous.”
1:47:01 Do you have your own personal cosmology?
2:02:16 Love unfolding.
2:14:12 Participating in a hierarchy committed to transforming the planet.
2:25:37 We are still fighting the forces of darkness which isn’t metaphorical, so know who your friends are.
2:33:33 A university planet of truth, beauty and goodness.
2:41:06 Giving birth to synchronic technology.
2:54:21 “One million people in coherence are stronger than 6 billion people out of coherence.”
3:01:22 Being evolved doesn’t mean you don’t have a bunch of parts that haven’t evolved yet.
Listen to Paul's conversation with John Churchill and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-341-john-churchill-the-evolution-of-consciousness
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
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Our world is way long overdue for a sacred revolution!
Teacher, Druid and psychologist John Churchill joins Paul on a deep exploration of human development and explains why a sacred revolution must take place to reclaim and transform our planet this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about John’s work and upcoming courses at his Planetary Dharma website at planetarydharma.com . Find him on social media via Instagram at instagram.com/planetarydharma .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Save 20 percent on John’s Introduction to Planetary Dharma: A Fourth Turning Path course July 18-20 at planetarydharma.com/summer-2025-intro-to-planetary-dharma to help you explore the awakening of the Bodhisattva within you!
0:00 Intro
6:17 “The kind of growth that I’m interested in is measured over years and decades, not in peak experiences [like plant medicines].”
9:07 Bodhisattva: John’s spiritual philosophy.
18:57 A good death.
24:32 Consciousness evolves but awareness doesn’t.
35:40 “Ninety percent of people should go to the monastery because they don't have a clue what they're doing.”
41:33 Our evolutionary journey.
47:49 “The most interesting game in town is the individual.”
1:01:03 Intuition or direct non-conceptual valid cognition?
1:11:05 “You can get a good sense of a person’s level of development based on what techniques they're attracted to.”
1:21:14 God consciousness or human consciousness.
1:37:31 Do you view levels of development as expressions of compassion?
1:43:37 “Psychology is dangerous.”
1:47:01 Do you have your own personal cosmology?
2:02:16 Love unfolding.
2:14:12 Participating in a hierarchy committed to transforming the planet.
2:25:37 We are still fighting the forces of darkness which isn’t metaphorical, so know who your friends are.
2:33:33 A university planet of truth, beauty and goodness.
2:41:06 Giving birth to synchronic technology.
2:54:21 “One million people in coherence are stronger than 6 billion people out of coherence.”
3:01:22 Being evolved doesn’t mean you don’t have a bunch of parts that haven’t evolved yet.
Listen to Paul's conversation with John Churchill and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-341-john-churchill-the-evolution-of-consciousness
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• BiOptimizers bioptimizers.com/living4d (save an extra 10% on your purchase by using the code PAUL10 at checkout)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• CHEK Institute/HLC 1 Live chekinstitute.com/core (Register for HLC 1 Live with Angie Chek at the Rainbow House today!)
• Wild Pastures wildpastures.com/paulchek (save 20% and free shipping for life plus $15 on your first order)
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
All Rights Reserved MusicFit Records 2024 at musicfitrecords.com
