Uploaded January 2025 | Updated September 2026, 58 minutes ago
Have you been feeling the world we live in has been a bit upside down and up for grabs, especially during the COVID pandemic and its aftermath?
Mark Gober, author of the Upside Down series of books, describes his non-stop journey to rethink the world’s many paradigms and explore the nature of reality this week on Spirit Gym.
Find out more about Mark’s work on his website at markgober.com and on social media via Facebook at facebook.com/markgoberauthor , Instagram at instagram.com/markgober_author , Twitter/X at https://x.com/MarkGoberAuthor , LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/mark-gober-bb957220 , YouTube at youtube.com/channel/UCXvOTXJKZGtcF1m4z5FWnew and Telegram at https://t.me/s/MarkGoberOfficial .
Sign up for your Spirit Gym podcast membership at paulchek.com/podcast-collections/all-episodes so you can access members-only extended versions of the podcast along with exclusive Q&A opportunities with Paul.
0:00 Intro
5:00 The hardest decision of Mark’s life.
8:14 The start of Mark’s End to Upside Down book series.
10:15 How Mark’s philosophies about the world began to evolve.
29:30 The near-death experience.
49:14 How does one develop a philosophy for living life?
1:00:39 Duhkha.
1:05:44 Mark’s embrace of the heretic.
1:08:15 Suffering builds character.
1:21:34 Always asking “Is it True?” is the basis of Mark’s work.
1:31:49 “I’ve had to learn to be open more and be willing to be wrong in a public way.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Mark Gober and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-327-mark-gober-an-end-to-upside-down-everything
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
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Have you been feeling the world we live in has been a bit upside down and up for grabs, especially during the COVID pandemic and its aftermath?
Mark Gober, author of the Upside Down series of books, describes his non-stop journey to rethink the world’s many paradigms and explore the nature of reality this week on Spirit Gym.
Find out more about Mark’s work on his website at markgober.com and on social media via Facebook at facebook.com/markgoberauthor , Instagram at instagram.com/markgober_author , Twitter/X at https://x.com/MarkGoberAuthor , LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/mark-gober-bb957220 , YouTube at youtube.com/channel/UCXvOTXJKZGtcF1m4z5FWnew and Telegram at https://t.me/s/MarkGoberOfficial .
Sign up for your Spirit Gym podcast membership at paulchek.com/podcast-collections/all-episodes so you can access members-only extended versions of the podcast along with exclusive Q&A opportunities with Paul.
0:00 Intro
5:00 The hardest decision of Mark’s life.
8:14 The start of Mark’s End to Upside Down book series.
10:15 How Mark’s philosophies about the world began to evolve.
29:30 The near-death experience.
49:14 How does one develop a philosophy for living life?
1:00:39 Duhkha.
1:05:44 Mark’s embrace of the heretic.
1:08:15 Suffering builds character.
1:21:34 Always asking “Is it True?” is the basis of Mark’s work.
1:31:49 “I’ve had to learn to be open more and be willing to be wrong in a public way.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Mark Gober and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-327-mark-gober-an-end-to-upside-down-everything
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• Wild Pastures wildpastures.com/paulchek (save 20% and free shipping for life plus $15 on your first order)
• Spirit Gym myspiritgym.com (check out our website for special incentives, discounts and a new level of membership)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• BiOptimizers bioptimizers.com/living4d (save an extra 10% on your purchase by using the code PAUL10 at checkout)
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
All Rights Reserved MusicFit Records 2024 at musicfitrecords.com
