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How do you find the truth about anything without succumbing to the hype, misinterpretations, poor reporting and outright lies?
Dr. Madhava Setty shares his model for separating fact from fiction using 9/11 as an example so you won’t outsource the heavy lifting to anyone else, this week on Spirit Gym.
Download the PDF handout that accompanies this episode here: drive.google.com/file/d/1cqayhgjpWDZxiELj7K4_uIzkHHzFFon3/view?usp=sharing
Learn more about Madhava and his work on his website at madhavasettymd.com , Substack at madhavasetty.substack.com and Instagram at instagram.com/splinterinyourmind/?hl=en . Read his contributions for The Defender, published by the Children’s Health Defense, at instagram.com/splinterinyourmind/?hl=en . Buy his book, WOKE. An Anesthesiologist’s View, on Amazon at amzn.to/3TWkMSd . Learn about his work as an advisor at the International Center for 9/11 Justice at ic911.org .
Sign up for your Spirit Gym podcast membership at paulchek.com/podcast-collections/all-episodes so you can access members-only extended versions of the podcast along with exclusive Q&A opportunities with Paul.
0:00 Intro
5:34 Madhava was very suspicious of the response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
7:36 “I believe 9/11 is more pivotal now more than ever because we are being bombarded with misinformation left and right.”
12:26 The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association’s (NOAA) 10-step approach to examine conspiracy theories.
18:18 Do you believe in mainstream media sources like CNN or the Wall Street Journal?
29:24 Madhava’s 12-step approach to get to the truth, so you don’t outsource your sense-making to anyone else.
36:24 Can you embrace uncertainty?
40:53 The difference between believing and knowing.
45:59 Sharpen your powers of observation.
54:32 Familiarize yourself with scientific principles.
59:19 “They’re telling us what happened, but not telling us why.”
1:05:46 Assess the initial coverage of the event.
1:10:58 What is the narrative we are being asked to believe?
1:19:01 Identify a better alternative explanation.
1:25:39 Listen to the witnesses.
1:36:24 Did the deep state tip its hand?
1:49:28 The Kyle Kingsbury formula.
1:53:32 “Notice how dirty these people are.”
2:09:40 “The cost of being ignorant is potentially death.”
2:19:49 How do you transform your way of thinking to create a shift in the collective consciousness?
2:23:15 “We can only be certain about what isn’t, not what is.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Dr. Madhava Setty and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-312-dr-madhava-setty-a-catalyst-for-awakening-now
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How do you find the truth about anything without succumbing to the hype, misinterpretations, poor reporting and outright lies?
Dr. Madhava Setty shares his model for separating fact from fiction using 9/11 as an example so you won’t outsource the heavy lifting to anyone else, this week on Spirit Gym.
Download the PDF handout that accompanies this episode here: drive.google.com/file/d/1cqayhgjpWDZxiELj7K4_uIzkHHzFFon3/view?usp=sharing
Learn more about Madhava and his work on his website at madhavasettymd.com , Substack at madhavasetty.substack.com and Instagram at instagram.com/splinterinyourmind/?hl=en . Read his contributions for The Defender, published by the Children’s Health Defense, at instagram.com/splinterinyourmind/?hl=en . Buy his book, WOKE. An Anesthesiologist’s View, on Amazon at amzn.to/3TWkMSd . Learn about his work as an advisor at the International Center for 9/11 Justice at ic911.org .
Sign up for your Spirit Gym podcast membership at paulchek.com/podcast-collections/all-episodes so you can access members-only extended versions of the podcast along with exclusive Q&A opportunities with Paul.
0:00 Intro
5:34 Madhava was very suspicious of the response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
7:36 “I believe 9/11 is more pivotal now more than ever because we are being bombarded with misinformation left and right.”
12:26 The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association’s (NOAA) 10-step approach to examine conspiracy theories.
18:18 Do you believe in mainstream media sources like CNN or the Wall Street Journal?
29:24 Madhava’s 12-step approach to get to the truth, so you don’t outsource your sense-making to anyone else.
36:24 Can you embrace uncertainty?
40:53 The difference between believing and knowing.
45:59 Sharpen your powers of observation.
54:32 Familiarize yourself with scientific principles.
59:19 “They’re telling us what happened, but not telling us why.”
1:05:46 Assess the initial coverage of the event.
1:10:58 What is the narrative we are being asked to believe?
1:19:01 Identify a better alternative explanation.
1:25:39 Listen to the witnesses.
1:36:24 Did the deep state tip its hand?
1:49:28 The Kyle Kingsbury formula.
1:53:32 “Notice how dirty these people are.”
2:09:40 “The cost of being ignorant is potentially death.”
2:19:49 How do you transform your way of thinking to create a shift in the collective consciousness?
2:23:15 “We can only be certain about what isn’t, not what is.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Dr. Madhava Setty and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-312-dr-madhava-setty-a-catalyst-for-awakening-now
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz) by Brave as Bears at braveasbears.bandcamp.com
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![The Evolution of Consciousness | John Churchill
Our world is way long overdue for a sacred revolution!
Teacher, Druid and psychologist John Churchill joins Paul on a deep exploration of human development and explains why a sacred revolution must take place to reclaim and transform our planet this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about John’s work and upcoming courses at his Planetary Dharma website at https://www.planetarydharma.com/ . Find him on social media via Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/planetarydharma/ .
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0:00 Intro
6:17 “The kind of growth that I’m interested in is measured over years and decades, not in peak experiences [like plant medicines].”
9:07 Bodhisattva: John’s spiritual philosophy.
18:57 A good death.
24:32 Consciousness evolves but awareness doesn’t.
35:40 “Ninety percent of people should go to the monastery because they dont have a clue what theyre doing.”
41:33 Our evolutionary journey.
47:49 “The most interesting game in town is the individual.”
1:01:03 Intuition or direct non-conceptual valid cognition?
1:11:05 “You can get a good sense of a person’s level of development based on what techniques theyre attracted to.”
1:21:14 God consciousness or human consciousness.
1:37:31 Do you view levels of development as expressions of compassion?
1:43:37 “Psychology is dangerous.”
1:47:01 Do you have your own personal cosmology?
2:02:16 Love unfolding.
2:14:12 Participating in a hierarchy committed to transforming the planet.
2:25:37 We are still fighting the forces of darkness which isn’t metaphorical, so know who your friends are.
2:33:33 A university planet of truth, beauty and goodness.
2:41:06 Giving birth to synchronic technology.
2:54:21 “One million people in coherence are stronger than 6 billion people out of coherence.”
3:01:22 Being evolved doesn’t mean you don’t have a bunch of parts that haven’t evolved yet.
Listen to Pauls conversation with John Churchill and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at https://paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-341-john-churchill-the-evolution-of-consciousness/
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