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Recently I re-interviewed "David" the man whose powerful story appeared in Chapter 9 ("Male Victims of Abuse and Betrayal") of my book, The Life-Saving Divorce. I wanted to see how he and his kids are doing after their long custody battle and David's remarriage. David wanted to take the high road in his divorce, but how do you co-parent with a destructive ex? That's what PART 2 is about.
BACKGROUND:
David was brought up in a high-achieving conservative Christian homeschooling family. He was taught the "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" purity culture formula for courtship and marriage, which is well-intentioned but often results in pushing young people to marry young and to ignore danger signs.
David was a good kid from a loving home who had a great relationship with his parents—and followed all the rules, including courtship formulas that promised marital success in his faith community.
In PART 1 he talks about the dangers of being brought up complementarian, and never taught what to do when you’ve gone several stages down the courtship path and notice serious red flags in your fiancé.
He discusses the outward signs of holiness that were supposed to guarantee a good marriage but in reality distract young people from focusing on integrity, intimacy, respect, friendship, and authenticity.
Although his first wife was known to be deceitful and unstable prior to their wedding (something other people had warned him about), he was given assurances by his faith community that all would be well because she met the litmus test of wanting to be a traditional stay-at-home mother.
These teachings propelled him to wed a destructive woman who was manipulative and coercive. After many years and three children, she eventually drove him to despair and depression, falsely accusing him of a felony, resulting in his arrest (and later exoneration).
He talks about trauma bonds, and the therapists who saved his life and helped him see the truth about love addictions that cause a person to debase themselves to keep the relationship. He also discusses his strong faith in God today, despite his wife lying and moving the children to another state and the year-long legal battle to get them back. Find out why he was given sole custody by the court, and why he volunteered to share custody with his ex-wife anyway.
In PART 2:
2:00 - We discuss why David decided to share custody with his ex-wife, despite a year-long expensive custody fight; and how the court put safeguards in place for the future. (David says up front: Don't do this if your children are in danger.)
39:00 - We talk about men who are "love and relationship addicts" and how he got the courage to start dating again.
40:10 - How did David approach online dating?
41:15 - How did he take red flags more seriously, and how did he come to believe that his new wife was someone he could trust?
54:00 - How does he and his new wife cope with the high-stress world of co-parenting with a difficult ex.
David’s story Part 1 - youtu.be/23NBi6GKqUA
Part 2 - youtu.be/OVCex0FkO7g
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ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. For more than 20 years, she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, and emotional abuse. She helps heartbroken people find strength and courage and healing.
Her book, "The Life-Saving Divorce" is about the one-half of U.S. divorces that are for very serious reasons. She will give you optimism about your children's future (nearly 8 in 10 children turn out fine after divorce, according to top researchers); and will help you understand emotional abuse, "gaslighting," the abuse cycle, and tips for surviving high-conflict divorces.
FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF ABUSED/BETRAYED HUSBANDS, read Chapter 9 in The Life-Saving Divorce book.
What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for the serious reasons: a pattern of sexual immorality, physical abuse, chronic emotional abuse, domestic violence, felony behavior, life-destroying addictions, or abandonment/neglect.
How to Get the Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Paperback Book/Kindle via Amazon: amzn.to/3CCBsnr As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow Gretchen Baskerville:
Subscribe to Gretchen's You Tube channel: youtube.com/channel/UCRgtUNfTlYIRDt8iOK6XPKQ
Facebook: facebook.com/gretchen.baskerville
Twitter: twitter.com/GGBaskerville
Instagram: instagram.com/gretchenbaskerville
Other helpful links
Website and Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
Top 50 Blog Posts by Topic: lifesavingdivorce.com/popular
Life-Saving Divorce Email Signup: LifeSavingDivorce.com/courage
Recently I re-interviewed "David" the man whose powerful story appeared in Chapter 9 ("Male Victims of Abuse and Betrayal") of my book, The Life-Saving Divorce. I wanted to see how he and his kids are doing after their long custody battle and David's remarriage. David wanted to take the high road in his divorce, but how do you co-parent with a destructive ex? That's what PART 2 is about.
BACKGROUND:
David was brought up in a high-achieving conservative Christian homeschooling family. He was taught the "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" purity culture formula for courtship and marriage, which is well-intentioned but often results in pushing young people to marry young and to ignore danger signs.
David was a good kid from a loving home who had a great relationship with his parents—and followed all the rules, including courtship formulas that promised marital success in his faith community.
In PART 1 he talks about the dangers of being brought up complementarian, and never taught what to do when you’ve gone several stages down the courtship path and notice serious red flags in your fiancé.
He discusses the outward signs of holiness that were supposed to guarantee a good marriage but in reality distract young people from focusing on integrity, intimacy, respect, friendship, and authenticity.
Although his first wife was known to be deceitful and unstable prior to their wedding (something other people had warned him about), he was given assurances by his faith community that all would be well because she met the litmus test of wanting to be a traditional stay-at-home mother.
These teachings propelled him to wed a destructive woman who was manipulative and coercive. After many years and three children, she eventually drove him to despair and depression, falsely accusing him of a felony, resulting in his arrest (and later exoneration).
He talks about trauma bonds, and the therapists who saved his life and helped him see the truth about love addictions that cause a person to debase themselves to keep the relationship. He also discusses his strong faith in God today, despite his wife lying and moving the children to another state and the year-long legal battle to get them back. Find out why he was given sole custody by the court, and why he volunteered to share custody with his ex-wife anyway.
In PART 2:
2:00 - We discuss why David decided to share custody with his ex-wife, despite a year-long expensive custody fight; and how the court put safeguards in place for the future. (David says up front: Don't do this if your children are in danger.)
39:00 - We talk about men who are "love and relationship addicts" and how he got the courage to start dating again.
40:10 - How did David approach online dating?
41:15 - How did he take red flags more seriously, and how did he come to believe that his new wife was someone he could trust?
54:00 - How does he and his new wife cope with the high-stress world of co-parenting with a difficult ex.
David’s story Part 1 - youtu.be/23NBi6GKqUA
Part 2 - youtu.be/OVCex0FkO7g
-------------
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. For more than 20 years, she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, and emotional abuse. She helps heartbroken people find strength and courage and healing.
Her book, "The Life-Saving Divorce" is about the one-half of U.S. divorces that are for very serious reasons. She will give you optimism about your children's future (nearly 8 in 10 children turn out fine after divorce, according to top researchers); and will help you understand emotional abuse, "gaslighting," the abuse cycle, and tips for surviving high-conflict divorces.
FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF ABUSED/BETRAYED HUSBANDS, read Chapter 9 in The Life-Saving Divorce book.
What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for the serious reasons: a pattern of sexual immorality, physical abuse, chronic emotional abuse, domestic violence, felony behavior, life-destroying addictions, or abandonment/neglect.
How to Get the Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Paperback Book/Kindle via Amazon: amzn.to/3CCBsnr As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow Gretchen Baskerville:
Subscribe to Gretchen's You Tube channel: youtube.com/channel/UCRgtUNfTlYIRDt8iOK6XPKQ
Facebook: facebook.com/gretchen.baskerville
Twitter: twitter.com/GGBaskerville
Instagram: instagram.com/gretchenbaskerville
Other helpful links
Website and Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
Top 50 Blog Posts by Topic: lifesavingdivorce.com/popular
Life-Saving Divorce Email Signup: LifeSavingDivorce.com/courage



![12 Surprising Insights from the Marriage Intensive Survey | Natalie Hoffman, Flying Free Podcast
There is a better version of this video at: https://youtu.be/RR4LXRswKTg?si=RGi-iWiZmFkPR6ht
Will your marriage be fixed by an in-person, multi-day, overnight marriage intensive? Is it worth the money, time and effort? Are the claims of these marriage intensives true? 330 people tell us about their marriage intensive experience.
— 03:58 LISTEN TO THE INTRO FIRST
— 12:20 Surprise #12: Some attended because it was a wholesome marriage event, but MOST attended to fix a marriage problem.
— 15:45 Surprise #11: 7 in 10 survey respondents indicated they are now separated or divorced. Another 1 in 10 plan to separate or divorce. Natalie tells her story of going to a marriage intensive that she paid for and attended with her [now ex-] husband.
— 22:35 Surprise #10: Only 24 of the 330 survey participants indicated that they were “married and happy.” And only 4 of those said their marriage intensive was “life-changing” for them.
— 28:50 Surprise #9: Half of the respondents said they attended a marriage intensive that used manipulation tactics. The other half did not mention any type of manipulation. We discuss the 7 most frequently mentioned manipulation tactics. We discuss the 3 worst marriage intensives. #WeekendToRemember
— 36:30 Surprise #8: Roughly 7 in 10 of the people who said they felt “hopeful” on the last day of the program indicated they are divorced or separated now. Even though this survey was too small to definitively measure the effectiveness of each of the top major marriage intensives, we get a hint that many of the success claims may not be true. Further studies using representative samples and more respondents need to be conducted.
— 44:13 Surprise #7: Only 2% of people whose spouse was NOT respectful when deep intimate feelings of fear and insecurity were shared are “married and happy” now. This is why couples counseling where there is abuse is considered unethical and possibly even illegal, according to the Gottman Institute.
— 47:28 Surprise #6: About 9 in 10 respondents indicated they would NOT likely recommend the marriage intensive to others, even if they liked some of the training in basic communication skills and problem-solving techniques.
— 51:25 Surprise #5: Those attending the most expensive marriage intensives had higher divorce and/or separation rates than those who paid far less. Some intensives charge $3,000-$12,000 for top experts and licensed counselors, but they still did not fix the marriage.
— 54:05 Surprise #4: People have all kinds of motivations for attending. Some just want a weekend away without the kids or dog.
— 54:25 Surprise #3: Many people mentioned that the topic of abuse was never mentioned or described. And in some intensives, abuse perpetrated in the marriage was not allowed to be discussed. People mentioned feeling unseen, unheard, and their pain and injuries were ignored. The dangers of “vow renewal ceremonies.”
— 57:15 Surprise #2: If a spouse pretended to be respectful for a short time and then went back to their usual negative or indifferent attitudes, there was a very high correlation with divorce or separation.
— 58:30 Surprise #1: Only 4 of the “married and happy” survey respondents gave the credit to the marriage intensive for a major positive change in their marriage.
How to Get the Book, The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships
Paperback Book/Kindle via Amazon: Paperback: https://amzn.to/3CCBsnr As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
The Bible teaches us to Run From Abusers: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/runfromabusers/
Studies that show that even though divorce is bad for kids, witnessing or experiencing abuse is up to 10 times worse: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-and-kids/
Bible verses on divorce, including passages that condone and even command divorce: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-in-bible/
Divorce as God’s Protection of Old Testament Wives: https://youtu.be/z2bAfawE-ZM?feature=shared
Divorce as God’s Protection for Women in the Bible: https://youtu.be/SJjv6eN1BDs?feature=shared
Critique of Hope Restored’s (Focus on the Family) Miracle Claims: https://youtu.be/QQlNoyLasfQ?feature=shared. Or Blog post: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/fotfevidence/
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. Since 1998, she has worked in churches in the Los Angeles area. She helps heartbroken people find strength, courage, and healing. She is a graduate of Wheaton College with a degree in Bible and Christian Education.
Website and Blog: http://www.LifeSavingDivorce.com
Twitter http://twitter.com/GGBaskerville
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/lifesavingdivorce
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gretchenbaskerville/
You Tube https://www.youtube.com/@lifesavingdivorce
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![Will A Marriage Intensive Fix My Marriage? | The Life-Saving Divorce
Will your marriage be fixed by an in-person, multi-day, overnight marriage intensive? Is it worth the money, time and effort? Are the claims of these marriage intensives true? 330 people told me about their marriage intensive experience in a survey. Join me and Natalie Hoffman of the @FlyingFree Podcast!
— 03:58 LISTEN TO THE INTRO FIRST
— 12:20 Surprise #12: Some attended because it was a wholesome marriage event, but MOST attended to fix a marriage problem.
— 15:45 Surprise #11: 7 in 10 survey respondents indicated they are now separated or divorced. Another 1 in 10 plan to separate or divorce. Natalie tells her story of going to a marriage intensive that she paid for and attended with her [now ex-] husband.
— 22:35 Surprise #10: Only 24 of the 330 survey participants indicated that they were “married and happy.” And only 4 of those said their marriage intensive was “life-changing” for them.
— 28:50 Surprise #9: Half of the respondents said they attended a marriage intensive that used manipulation tactics. The other half did not mention any type of manipulation. We discuss the 7 most frequently mentioned manipulation tactics. We discuss the 3 worst marriage intensives. #WeekendToRemember
— 36:30 Surprise #8: Roughly 7 in 10 of the people who said they felt “hopeful” on the last day of the program indicated they are divorced or separated now. Even though this survey was too small to definitively measure the effectiveness of each of the top major marriage intensives, we get a hint that many of the success claims may not be true. Further studies using representative samples and more respondents need to be conducted.
— 44:13 Surprise #7: Only 2% of people whose spouse was NOT respectful when deep intimate feelings of fear and insecurity were shared are “married and happy” now. This is why couples counseling where there is abuse is considered unethical and possibly even illegal, according to the Gottman Institute.
— 47:28 Surprise #6: About 9 in 10 respondents indicated they would NOT likely recommend the marriage intensive to others, even if they liked some of the training in basic communication skills and problem-solving techniques.
— 51:25 Surprise #5: Those attending the most expensive marriage intensives had higher divorce and/or separation rates than those who paid far less. Some intensives charge $3,000-$12,000 for top experts and licensed counselors, but they still did not fix the marriage.
— 54:05 Surprise #4: People have all kinds of motivations for attending. Some just want a weekend away without the kids or dog.
— 54:25 Surprise #3: Many people mentioned that the topic of abuse was never mentioned or described. And in some intensives, abuse perpetrated in the marriage was not allowed to be discussed. People mentioned feeling unseen, unheard, and their pain and injuries were ignored. The dangers of “vow renewal ceremonies.”
— 57:15 Surprise #2: If a spouse pretended to be respectful for a short time and then went back to their usual negative or indifferent attitudes, there was a very high correlation with divorce or separation.
— 58:30 Surprise #1: Only 4 of the “married and happy” survey respondents gave the credit to the marriage intensive for a major positive change in their marriage.
01:01:00 Who should attend a marriage intensive?
Links:
How to Get the Book, The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships
Paperback Book/Kindle via Amazon: Paperback: https://amzn.to/3CCBsnr Audiobook: https://amzn.to/4f52Mh4 As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
The Bible teaches us to Run From Abusers: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/runfrom...
Studies that show that even though divorce is bad for kids, witnessing or experiencing abuse is up to 10 times worse: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-and-kids
Bible verses on divorce, including passages that condone and even command divorce: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-in-bible
Divorce as God’s Protection of Old Testament Wives: https://youtu.be/z2bAfawE-ZM?feature=shared
Divorce as God’s Protection for Women in the Bible: https://youtu.be/SJjv6eN1BDs?feature=shared
Critique of Hope Restored’s (Focus on the Family) Miracle Claims: https://youtu.be/QQlNoyLasfQ Or Blog post: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/fotfevidence
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. Since 1998, she has worked in churches in the Los Angeles area. She helps heartbroken people find strength, courage, and healing. She is a graduate of Wheaton College with a degree in Bible and Christian Education.
Website and Blog: http://www.LifeSavingDivorce.com
Twitter / ggbaskerville
Facebook / lifesavingdivorce
Instagram / gretchenbaskerville
You Tube / @lifesavingdivorce
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