Uploaded August 2020 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
UPDATE: hugely improved, it saves ~14 seconds: youtu.be/qDjKsQ1I188
the sequel to Nim's one with a different director: youtube.com/watch?v=y0sqWQktGJk
it's got its own personality, but doesn't quite get out of the original's shadow, but again, its own personality is there in the tj 2p jump to break out of the gravity, something that speedrunners have always messed about with but didn't have a real look-in until Diamentos started testing it recently.
In terms of speed, this should be a little bit faster than riding the saucer, with better movement (this attempt is about 3s off a saucer ride by my estimates, and it had a few stationary slope jumps and an untidy route).
UPDATE: hugely improved, it saves ~14 seconds: youtu.be/qDjKsQ1I188
the sequel to Nim's one with a different director: youtube.com/watch?v=y0sqWQktGJk
it's got its own personality, but doesn't quite get out of the original's shadow, but again, its own personality is there in the tj 2p jump to break out of the gravity, something that speedrunners have always messed about with but didn't have a real look-in until Diamentos started testing it recently.
In terms of speed, this should be a little bit faster than riding the saucer, with better movement (this attempt is about 3s off a saucer ride by my estimates, and it had a few stationary slope jumps and an untidy route).
![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Masterpiece Green Star 2 in 1:00.63](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mTI_hX9rb5o/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Masterpiece Green Star 2 in 1:00.63
Luigi bounces on a ruler to collect a Green Star in 1 minute 0.63 seconds [IGT, 3638 frames].
Spinning onto the ball is faster than the somersault animation by 0.2s.
The paintbrush planet is where theres room for improvement, particularly getting a better bonk off the red paintbrushes to bounce down rather than sideways.
Jumping through the red brushes is slower, and I tried many times to jump through the green brushes with no luck.
Jumping into the key is the best option as landing cuts off most of the momentum, allowing for a quicker u-turn back around to the red brushes.
In the next section, it is barely possible to jump from the flipswitches to the top disc. This required a full run-up (with a jump that lands on the edge of the flipswitch to keep speed) and a last frame jump.
For the last planet, I tried carrying some of the launch momentum across the whole planet with constant jumping, but it was a few frames faster to jump once and quickly roll off the little disc platform to quickly get up to rolling speed.
Its possible to land on the sides of the ruler, with the left side being more lenient than the right, even being able to land and roll along on the left side. But constant jumping is faster in this case. This is called ruler grinding, or ruler bouncing. idk what to call it.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG2: Throwback Green Stars](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mjvpotW5SW0/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Throwback Green Stars
Green Stars TAS WIP
Star order matters because of the Whomps position for Green Star 2, with cutscenes bringing it close to the star to make it 1.1s faster to do GS2 first.
Green Star 2 - 12.83s IGT - 2:08:42.25 real-time split (1:08.99 segment)
Despite cutscenes, this manages to be an IGT improvement of 7 frames over my 2020 TAS: https://youtu.be/I0q Uq9a1w?feature=shared
I was able to figure out where my TAS was losing slope jump speed to sonicpackers Whomp TAS - the long jumps up the arrow incline need to keep running speed as running speed affects slope jump speed.
Two more improvements come from the triple jump spin setup to get an angled wallkick straight onto the top, and 2P freezing the Whomp to get the boosted triple jump earlier.
Green Star 1 - 9.53s IGT - 2:09:35.13 real-time split (52.88 segment)
This is also an improvement of an unpublished 2020 TAS (9.61).
Not much is noteworthy about this star, besides the slight bump against the Bomp actually gaining some extra speed (8hspd) for a frame.
There was a potential strat zip jumping off the bottom of the dirt slope, but it was a few frames slower.
Green Star 3 - 16.53s IGT - 2:10:46.86 real-time split (1:11.73s segment)
The main trick of this star is the Blast Away the Wall route found by Pottoww, that uses an edge slope jump that allows for a spin to get back onto the rotating platform: https://youtu.be/MzC6UY2QRL0?feature=shared
Also, turning the camera for the cloud jumps saved a couple of frames as, without the turn, Luigi would be moving straight towards the camera which is generally slower.
#supermariogalaxy2 #toolassistedspeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG2: Fearsome Fleet Green Star 2 in 0xA Presses [Luigi]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mu-uC5I3fyA/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Fearsome Fleet Green Star 2 in 0xA Presses [Luigi]
This saves 0.5x over the previous count. Nice to clean up half presses.
Credit to SaladBowl for the idea of getting a Hammer Bro higher up the ship. Salads channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsSYX9Ev_TqYxXRXTqHTNAA
P2 is there chillin waiting for me to test speed strats, but it doesnt do anything here. There is a possibility for it to be used in a full run though...
The timing for hitting a recovering Hammer Bro with a spin is much tighter than it looks - there are a few frames after it stands up where another hit will still kill it, but then just a few frames later, it jumps away, and if you hit it a few frames into its jump, its an insta-kill, so you only have a few standing frames and early jumping frames to hit it without killing it.
Yoshis tongue, however, can hit it whenever.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Supermassive Green Star 1 in 1xA + 0.5xA P2 [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nFvOR6B6kA0/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Supermassive Green Star 1 in 1xA + 0.5xA P2 [Mario]
Mario takes flight off a large Goomba with the help of P2 to collect a Green Star in 1 A press.
P2 can hold A before and throughout the level, letting go of the Goomba by itself when it gets hit or goes off-screen.
P2 is used to prevent Mario from getting hit by the Goomba, to stop it moving, and to lower it enough for Mario to get on top without using up a spin.
It was also useful after getting the reverse gravity/axis float, as it stopped Mario kicking the stunned Goomba which would break the float.
Reverse gravity/axis float: We dont have a full technical explanation, but the general theory is that an NPC sphere (used for enemies, allies, crystals, signs) has a push function - which is usually overridden by bounce or damage - that is supposed to push Mario off if he tries to land on top.
This action ends up messing with Marios gravitational pull in some way, typically making him fall slowly, but with some precise interaction, it can completely flip Marios reading of gravity (one theory is that its reversing the reading of the 3D axes, considering you need backwards movement), making him float slowly upwards until something eventually brings him back down to earth (interacting with something like an enemy or wall, or just eventually over time).
Really should ask modders more about how the game works lol
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[ABC TAS] SMG2: Cosmic Cove GS1 in 0.5xA (+ P2 0.5xA)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nHFTmux0Ae4/mqdefault.jpg "[ABC TAS] SMG2: Cosmic Cove GS1 in 0.5xA (+ P2 0.5xA)
Mario and P2 attack a penguin and a fish for some flying miles to collect a Green Star in 0.5 A presses.
Both Mario and P2s 0.5 are only required for the Cheep Cheep, with P2 using it to freeze and spin the Cheep, and Mario needing it to clip inside without hitting or being hit.
This saves 4 A presses from the previous count, avoiding the ice waterfall walljumps by launching off the Cheep into the star.
Also in this video is a launch worthy of the title mega, somehow getting 129 XYZ initial speed (67 yspd, 110 hspd) off the penguin to go rocketing across the first stretch of the planet.
You can find more mega launches here: https://youtu.be/bcCLTZ1MykQ
#SuperMarioGalaxy #abuttonchallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Bowsers Gravity Gauntlet 1 in 0xA (5xA) [Mario, w/ CM]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nP3jOnwMYmk/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Bowsers Gravity Gauntlet 1 in 0xA (5xA) [Mario, w/ CM]
Mario swims up a castle and slingshots around meteors to defeat Bowsers Gravity Gauntlet in 0 A presses (with 5 dialogue A presses).
Despite being able to hold A from dialogue, I chose to complete the fight without that, in case dialogue has some magical skip in the future. Or a gameplay-specific run is done.
The castle OoB is used again, because the normal wheel route would have to die at the last checkpoint to have enough health for the fireboost into the Grand Star.
Attempt at the comet with the wheel way, if you wanted to see the movement: https://youtu.be/isYeFnmErXI
The tail grinding at 0:29 is actually faster than running, reaching up to 15hspd compared to 13 from running.
Getting the Comet Medal, I took advantage of a spin trick where you hit something with a ground spin just as you leave the ground, which gives some height while still letting you do an air spin.
With the lava boosting, I had to land on the Whomps foot to avoid dying due to being in fire/airtime state for too long (the little bounce before the foot is included in that state). So I decided to follow it up with some brief freerunning, clipping through the Whomp as it fell.
mkk (aka Lyric) found the Luma meteor strat. For some reason - possibly the jagged floor - I couldnt get the usual slippy slidey strat to work on the 2nd and 3rd meteors.
Avoiding Bowsers punch shockwaves was done by positioning Mario on the edge of the punch range so he gets clipped out without taking damage, which gives some airtime to spin over the shockwaves.
For the meteor waves, a very precise spin knockback was enough to dodge both at the same time (in one case, I bounced off a coin rock too).
To hit Bowser, standing on a meteor while Bowser destroys it keeps Mario in the air, and a well-timed and well-placed ground pound can swing around the gravity of the other meteor and still be registered as a pound even when Marios stance is changed.
UPDATE: Soon after this, I went back to retry lava boost skip without Life Mushroom and managed to get it, but only by grabbing a coin, so dying at a checkpoint would be needed to avoid a post-level coin textbox.
This could be useful for moving the first Life Mushroom textbox to a different level where holding A from the box would be useful (Melty Monster 1 or Lava Lair Comet): https://youtu.be/ylkAo0MPfXM
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Clockwork Ruins GS2 in 29.65s (cutscenes run)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nPBNwAWyQv8/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Clockwork Ruins GS2 in 29.65s (cutscenes run)
Wanted to show off the cutscenes run here because the moving wall cycle is so tight and the wheel cycle is all weird but cool to do fast.
The second half of the first planet looks slow but is oddly the fastest route for that ending - the final wheel only starts moving when you reach a certain point on the previous wheel (I never found out exactly where) but in the time it takes for the arm to come up so you can backflip or long jump off it, it is faster to just get to the middle and backflip and wallkick up (by ~0.75s).
And damn this choppy framerate garbage dolphin dump garbage pc
At the very start, I had tried to get an instant triple bounce off the Jack OGoomba, but it didnt work out at all despite various angles.
An instant triple bounce was possible off the one on the second planet thanks to the low ceiling bouncing Luigi back down onto the pumpkin. This was fast and necessary to be able to beat the cycle to the far right side.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG2: Boss Blitz Green Star 1 in 1:03.93](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ndlfzuZORRs/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Boss Blitz Green Star 1 in 1:03.93
Luigi and P2 smash up a couple of bosses to collect a Green Star in 1 minutes 3.93 seconds [IGT, 3836 frames].
I had done everything up to Major Burrows a few months ago when testing for Burrows RNG between cutscenes and no cutscenes. This is why both cutscenes play (letting the second one play is also faster for IGT).
Compared to Boss Blitz GS2 (https://youtu.be/4XGkl4_N0Gk) this improved Dino and Kaliente fights:
- For Dinos 2nd and final hits, manipulating Dinos movements and changing angle hitting the tail so the tail whipped and hit Dino 1f earlier.
- For Kalientes 2nd phase, hitting the return shot right in front of Kaliente so it hit a few frames earlier and also skips the 5 frames of hitlag from spinning the coconut.
- For Kalientes 3rd phase, general optimisation of the long jump and spin to both defeat Kaliente and reach the launch star earlier, saving 7 frames.
I also tried hitting Dinos first hit in the same way as the 2nd and 3rd but could only match the 1P hit used.
For the star grab, jump cancel and camera cancel are both the same as the cutscene resets Luigis position.
An earlier long jump would be too floaty to be faster, as would pretty much any jump.
I landed on a slope on the tree and held neutral just before landing and then backwards when landing to get insane speed which happens because reasons.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] Flash Black mansion Yoshiless as Mario (megasideflip route)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p5QpRP7TJeo/mqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Flash Black mansion Yoshiless as Mario (megasideflip route)
Second possible Yoshiless route for Mario.
Luigi has been known for a while to be able to do this without Yoshi, as seen in Pottowws 2015 IL: https://youtu.be/ONF0Yhv8Nmk
For Mario, it was thought for a long time that he couldnt make the first platform, but goryuya managed to get it with a triple jump spin just a few days ago. The difference was in facing away from the wall. Somehow Mario decides to grab facing away but not facing towards: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762731483189870623/902529710356066304/2021-10-26_20-26-24_Trim.mp4
jda7 wondered if neutral walljump strain would squeeze out enough height to make the triple jump walljump strat work for TAS. I couldnt make it work, but tried a couple of other ideas, first being angled wallkicks to get further up the outside wall (wallkick angled to the left off one side, strain back to wallkick off the wall Mario would be facing).
Then I wondered if a megasideflip was possible as the start has a fixed camera (XZ_PARA) angled perfectly diagonal to the level like in Flip-Swap.
That worked, and I managed to get to the first platform, and then up to the second storey. Then the route follows most of Luigis route.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2")
