dewinthemorning | WL Craig - Abstract Objects Exist, They Don't Exist, They Exist Again - Blatant Dishonesty! @dewinthemorning | Uploaded May 2012 | Updated October 2024, 13 minutes ago.
WL Craig, as a good debator, knows that he cannot suddenly spring god on his audience, so he uses the phrase "abstract objects, like numbers", which makes him a Platonist. But Platonism doesn't agree with Christianity because it makes god just one of a crowd of ideal ('abstract') objects. At first he states that 'abstract' objects are ideas in the mind of god. Then he states that they are "fictions", created by humans to be able to explore the world... which is correct, only 'fiction' is the wrong word. But then, in his latest debates, he again states that "abstract objects, like numbers" exist independantly... I call this dishonesty!

The book I am holding at 1:16, is "A New History of Philosophy" Volume Two: From Descartes to Searle, by Wallace Matson. I was going to read from it, but - time constraint! I say "Holbach is a materialist."

WLCraig has changed his mind about 'abstract objects':
youtube.com/watch?v=F71ijpKE3hw
youtube.com/watch?v=mPLowFsaXkQ

The new debates:
youtube.com/watch?v=tXJDSw88YVI
youtube.com/watch?v=prYeIU0NrSY

I would like you to take a look at this short video, about abstract objects being 'effete' (can't be a cause), because I touch on this in the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=C0jSKj_m4Ig&feature=related

A relevant question and an answer by Craig on reasonablefaith.org:
reasonablefaith.org/the-applicability-of-mathematics