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The Courier, either by sheer luck or divine intervention, survives a gunshot to the head at the beginning of Fallout New Vegas. But what would have happened to the Mojave Wasteland if Benny had killed the Courier in Goodsprings?
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What if Benny killed The Courier in Goodsprings? - Fallout New Vegas (in text form)
Let’s start with the obvious, which is that several events still play out the same way. Benny still gets the Platinum Chip, still heads through Boulder City, betraying the Great Khans in the process, and still ends up at the Strip. What happens next? Well, we know what Benny’s plan was, and he still has Yes Man to do a lot of the behind-the-scenes work. Benny needs to head to the Fort to upgrade the Securitrons so he can finally wage war against Mr House. But Courier Six he is not. The Courier was invited to the Fort to meet Caesar, Benny wasn’t. He’ll have to use a stealth boy to sneak in. And we know from a quest in New Vegas that his attempt was not successful. Benny is captured by the Legion and killed in one way or another. The Legion now has the Platinum Chip with no idea what the hell it is. Because Mr House has no way to get the Platinum Chip, if he even knows it’s with the Legion, he can never upgrade his Securitron army. He’s still an important figure on the Strip, but is no longer a key-player in the battle for the Mojave. That leaves us with the NCR and Caesar’s Legion, since the smaller factions like the Brotherhood of Steel, Boomers, and Enclave Remnants are never convinced to join forces with one of the larger factions.
A few important people are going to die next. With no knowledge of an assassination plot against President Kimball, the NCR President is taken out by the Legion. Shortly before or after that, Caesar dies because there is no Courier to save him. Legate Lanius takes command. He’s certainly a brilliant tactician, but he’s no Caesar. A primary Legion belief was that Caesar was sent by Mars, the Roman god of war, to save humanity. Legate Lanius… wasn’t.
The Second Battle of Hoover Dam has arrived. Both forces are suffering somewhat on a morale level after the deaths of their leaders, but as the saying goes, the war must go on. NCR wins the day. Why? They have the numbers, tactics, firepower, and technology. The Legion are no pushovers, but because of the nature of their beliefs being based off of Roman ideologies, they’re not really prepared to take on the might of a full-on army, especially with Caesar not being at the helm. As Shoddycast explained in a great video that I’ll have linked in the description, with the death of Caesar, all the NCR has to do to win the Mojave is wait.
The NCR and Legion, that’s big picture stuff. What happens to Goodsprings or the Think Tanks at Big MT, the small-scale shit? Well, me, I’m glad you asked.
In the Big MT, the Think Thanks continue on as they were before the Courier arrived. Occasionally abducting wastelanders, conducting experiments, waging a somewhat trivial war against Doctor Mobius, and live in isolation out of fear of what might happen if they disable their sonic fence.
In Zion Canyon, the battles between the White Legs, Dead Horses, and Sorrows tribes reaches a boiling point. With no Courier to save them, the Dead Horses and Sorrows prove to be no match for the White Legs who use high end weapons like Brush Guns and 12.7mm submachine guns. Joshua Graham also falls in the process, and the legend of the Burned Man goes out with many not even knowing it burned on in the first place.
Lastly, Ulysses waits patiently at the end of a Lonesome Road for a Courier who will never return to the Divide. If he one day learns of Courier Six’s demise, it seems likely that he would attempt to re-establish a settlement in the Divide.
The Courier, either by sheer luck or divine intervention, survives a gunshot to the head at the beginning of Fallout New Vegas. But what would have happened to the Mojave Wasteland if Benny had killed the Courier in Goodsprings?
Shoddycast's NCR vs Legion video: youtube.com/watch?v=pgw3NgYTR6U
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10 Weirdest References in Fallout: youtube.com/watch?v=uXoJxLSK2Uo
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10 Things You Didn’t Know About Fallout, Again: youtube.com/watch?v=XmDgepLf5qo
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6 Most F*cked-Up Fallout Vaults (Most Disturbing Fallout Vaults: youtube.com/watch?v=KZXEXLyTD2w
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What if Benny killed The Courier in Goodsprings? - Fallout New Vegas (in text form)
Let’s start with the obvious, which is that several events still play out the same way. Benny still gets the Platinum Chip, still heads through Boulder City, betraying the Great Khans in the process, and still ends up at the Strip. What happens next? Well, we know what Benny’s plan was, and he still has Yes Man to do a lot of the behind-the-scenes work. Benny needs to head to the Fort to upgrade the Securitrons so he can finally wage war against Mr House. But Courier Six he is not. The Courier was invited to the Fort to meet Caesar, Benny wasn’t. He’ll have to use a stealth boy to sneak in. And we know from a quest in New Vegas that his attempt was not successful. Benny is captured by the Legion and killed in one way or another. The Legion now has the Platinum Chip with no idea what the hell it is. Because Mr House has no way to get the Platinum Chip, if he even knows it’s with the Legion, he can never upgrade his Securitron army. He’s still an important figure on the Strip, but is no longer a key-player in the battle for the Mojave. That leaves us with the NCR and Caesar’s Legion, since the smaller factions like the Brotherhood of Steel, Boomers, and Enclave Remnants are never convinced to join forces with one of the larger factions.
A few important people are going to die next. With no knowledge of an assassination plot against President Kimball, the NCR President is taken out by the Legion. Shortly before or after that, Caesar dies because there is no Courier to save him. Legate Lanius takes command. He’s certainly a brilliant tactician, but he’s no Caesar. A primary Legion belief was that Caesar was sent by Mars, the Roman god of war, to save humanity. Legate Lanius… wasn’t.
The Second Battle of Hoover Dam has arrived. Both forces are suffering somewhat on a morale level after the deaths of their leaders, but as the saying goes, the war must go on. NCR wins the day. Why? They have the numbers, tactics, firepower, and technology. The Legion are no pushovers, but because of the nature of their beliefs being based off of Roman ideologies, they’re not really prepared to take on the might of a full-on army, especially with Caesar not being at the helm. As Shoddycast explained in a great video that I’ll have linked in the description, with the death of Caesar, all the NCR has to do to win the Mojave is wait.
The NCR and Legion, that’s big picture stuff. What happens to Goodsprings or the Think Tanks at Big MT, the small-scale shit? Well, me, I’m glad you asked.
In the Big MT, the Think Thanks continue on as they were before the Courier arrived. Occasionally abducting wastelanders, conducting experiments, waging a somewhat trivial war against Doctor Mobius, and live in isolation out of fear of what might happen if they disable their sonic fence.
In Zion Canyon, the battles between the White Legs, Dead Horses, and Sorrows tribes reaches a boiling point. With no Courier to save them, the Dead Horses and Sorrows prove to be no match for the White Legs who use high end weapons like Brush Guns and 12.7mm submachine guns. Joshua Graham also falls in the process, and the legend of the Burned Man goes out with many not even knowing it burned on in the first place.
Lastly, Ulysses waits patiently at the end of a Lonesome Road for a Courier who will never return to the Divide. If he one day learns of Courier Six’s demise, it seems likely that he would attempt to re-establish a settlement in the Divide.
