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Music: Currents by Marie
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Transcript:
I thought that to be a good Quaker I had to be A, B, C, D, and if I couldn't do those things maybe I wasn't a good Quaker. Where my journey through the years and through reading the early journals, it's all taught me that it's not up to me at all - my primary goal is to be open to being led by a power greater than myself.
Understanding Quaker Faith Through the Journal of George Fox
Hi, I'm Chris Stern and I live just outside of Media, PA, and I attend-- I'm a member of Middletown Friends Meeting here in Lima, PA.
Well, I was brought up in a Quaker situation. My dad was a Quaker and my mom went to meeting with him. Meeting was a big challenge for me as a child. I liked some of the messages I heard while I was able to sit still and listen but sitting still was really hard for me. Meanwhile I was struggling with seeing a lot of really fine examples in the Quaker meeting of people who seemed to be living very peace centered, loving lives and I found this nice in lots of way and comforting in lots of ways, but also a huge challenge because many of the things that were held up in meeting as the way to live were not easy things at all and often times you'd be told about the testimonies (that is the things that Quakers believe are the way to live your life) but very little was said about how to find the strength or power from within or without to live that way. So I found myself constantly falling short and at some point I remember saying to myself, "Well I can't be a good Quaker so I really shouldn't go to Quaker meeting anymore."
Finding the Journal of George Fox
The journey as I left Quakers led me mostly into Eastern religions. I did a lot of studying (mostly through reading) but for me they just didn't seem to make that much of a difference in who I was as a person; I still remained the same confused... and not knowing how to respond to difficult situations. Eventually through some people that took an interest in me I began to be willing to look at Christianity. In particular a man, a Quaker, reappeared who had had a conversion experience and was now reading early Quaker writings, in particular the Journal of George Fox, and my parents who saw me struggling with this recommended that I talk to this person. Bill, this man who helped me with this, was an immediate help and asked me if I wanted to come and read the Journal of George Fox with him regularly so we went through the whole Journal, the writings of George Fox, together and talked about them. I began to see that George Fox was a young man who was of a similar condition that I was in: confused, hurt, unsure how to respond to the world around him, and went to all these people for advice and help and found none of it was helpful, and then had this powerful inward experience/inward voice that said, "There is one, even Christ Jesus, that can speak to thy condition," and when he heard this his heart leapt for joy. So I realized there was something there that he had found and I wanted to find it, too.
An Inward Faith
Religion can so easily become something that we wear, that we put on from the outside but the power within the Quaker messages and of these early journals was that there is an experience that can come to us inwardly when we come to the end of our own resources and ask for help that Christ can speak to us in the present day and the present moment and bring to us a message that is transformative and become a guide for us in our lives.
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Filming and Editing by Rebecca Hamilton-Levi
Music: Currents by Marie
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Transcript:
I thought that to be a good Quaker I had to be A, B, C, D, and if I couldn't do those things maybe I wasn't a good Quaker. Where my journey through the years and through reading the early journals, it's all taught me that it's not up to me at all - my primary goal is to be open to being led by a power greater than myself.
Understanding Quaker Faith Through the Journal of George Fox
Hi, I'm Chris Stern and I live just outside of Media, PA, and I attend-- I'm a member of Middletown Friends Meeting here in Lima, PA.
Well, I was brought up in a Quaker situation. My dad was a Quaker and my mom went to meeting with him. Meeting was a big challenge for me as a child. I liked some of the messages I heard while I was able to sit still and listen but sitting still was really hard for me. Meanwhile I was struggling with seeing a lot of really fine examples in the Quaker meeting of people who seemed to be living very peace centered, loving lives and I found this nice in lots of way and comforting in lots of ways, but also a huge challenge because many of the things that were held up in meeting as the way to live were not easy things at all and often times you'd be told about the testimonies (that is the things that Quakers believe are the way to live your life) but very little was said about how to find the strength or power from within or without to live that way. So I found myself constantly falling short and at some point I remember saying to myself, "Well I can't be a good Quaker so I really shouldn't go to Quaker meeting anymore."
Finding the Journal of George Fox
The journey as I left Quakers led me mostly into Eastern religions. I did a lot of studying (mostly through reading) but for me they just didn't seem to make that much of a difference in who I was as a person; I still remained the same confused... and not knowing how to respond to difficult situations. Eventually through some people that took an interest in me I began to be willing to look at Christianity. In particular a man, a Quaker, reappeared who had had a conversion experience and was now reading early Quaker writings, in particular the Journal of George Fox, and my parents who saw me struggling with this recommended that I talk to this person. Bill, this man who helped me with this, was an immediate help and asked me if I wanted to come and read the Journal of George Fox with him regularly so we went through the whole Journal, the writings of George Fox, together and talked about them. I began to see that George Fox was a young man who was of a similar condition that I was in: confused, hurt, unsure how to respond to the world around him, and went to all these people for advice and help and found none of it was helpful, and then had this powerful inward experience/inward voice that said, "There is one, even Christ Jesus, that can speak to thy condition," and when he heard this his heart leapt for joy. So I realized there was something there that he had found and I wanted to find it, too.
An Inward Faith
Religion can so easily become something that we wear, that we put on from the outside but the power within the Quaker messages and of these early journals was that there is an experience that can come to us inwardly when we come to the end of our own resources and ask for help that Christ can speak to us in the present day and the present moment and bring to us a message that is transformative and become a guide for us in our lives.
More: fdsj.nl/journals
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The views expressed in this video are of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Friends Journal or its collaborators.





![The Key to Spirit-Led Pastoral Care
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I worked as a pastor cause I was ordained in 1987. Several times I experienced nice dreams that were conducting me to the leadership of a chior. So I could hear the good song, I could hear the voice and the words and write them and the next day I would have to teach the song to the choir. It was marvelous. One song which I used, and which was spread in the whole Friends church in Burundi at that time, it talks about the love of God. God is love, we should love one another. I will sing just one chorus for you.
My name is pastor Abel Siibonio. I grew up in Evangelical Friends Chursh, in Burundi. It’s now seventeen years I’m living in Australia, and I’m attending Queensland Regional Meeting of Friends. I was able to recognize some of my gifts through the holy spirit showing me the way. Sometimes when I was on the mountain looking after sheeps, I could hear some good and kind voice often requesting me to consecrate my life to Christ. I spent like four years in the bible school from 1974, and I returned to my village and was able to go through and work for Evangelical Friends Church. So it was not easy for me at that time to enter that field, but it was the holy spirit who guided me. Strength comes from the peace, love, simplicity testimonies. Love one another; that really helped me a lot to make sure we are bringing everybody on board.
Pastoral skills needed in this field are so many. Be able to listen. Be able to listen to other people. be able to discern what is good [from] what is bad. If you dont have the spirit of discernment, someone may come and bring a bad teacher and the whole church will fall! You need to be able to listen to the friends around you, elders around you, and be able to listen to the holy spirit because the spirit will go beyond you as a human being.
Another skill, of course you ned to be able to talk. In Africa, we dont have always have the microphone. You need your voice to be able to reach 500 people who are there. I was not able to have the kind of voice when I was young. So often, when I was just outside in the mountains, I would try to practice the voice e. I would just shout, I could say, “Now, if I can hear the echo, that means the voice reached that mountain and came back”. Not only talking, but you need to discern what to talk [about] at the right time.
Sometimes we need, also, to have some skills on medical issues. Be able to recognize ‘this is that spiritual issues, this is malaria’. In my village, we had this bloody diarrhea, and people didn’t think it was a curable disease. Because I was able to know, I did support all of the people in the village. None of them died! So you need the skill to recognize what is the spiritual and what is physical.
Yes, another skill you need as a pastor, you need a social skill. You can interact with other neighbors, people from different angles because you will need them. You need to visit prisoners, and if you dont have the skill to approach the leadership of our social places, you wont reach to anything. For newcomers, it’s good to have elders to help you to identify. You empower them to go beyond just understanding the newcomer and be able to identify some of their needs. Sometimes they may come to church because of the domestic violence issues they are facing in the families, or any kind of abuse. So we have trained an elder woman to talk to them. I did that even in the [Tanzania] refugee camp, where I became the first woman group leader in the the whole camp, so that I could serve them.
You have to be brave because of the authorities, sometimes they are not Christians. Sometimes with the police, who were taking advantage of, you know, young girls who were just working for them, and cooking for them, or washing their clothes they started sexually abusing them. I said, “No. You have been brought here to protect my people, you cannot take advantage of them”. So one night, they surrounded my house, like fifteen police, at night to kill me. If it was not [for] the community who had protected me that night I could have died! Six refugees were killed the same night. So the next morning the camp commander came to office and said, “I want to view! I want to see what you are writing! What do you report?” So my immediate supervisor came to visit me with a sexual gender based violence program evaluator from England...
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