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Sasha and Stella welcome Dr. Kathleen Stock. Explore the complexities of identity, the nuances of “inclusive” language, societal expectations, and the balance between fiction and truth. Uncover the implicit importance honest, empathetic discussions rooted in truthful language for fostering self-discovery and acceptance.
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Sasha and Stella welcome Dr. Kathleen Stock. Explore the complexities of identity, the nuances of “inclusive” language, societal expectations, and the balance between fiction and truth. Uncover the implicit importance honest, empathetic discussions rooted in truthful language for fostering self-discovery and acceptance.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-152
Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/
Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at widerlenspod.com/
Support the Show at widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show
Join the conversation on YouTube at youtube.com/@widerlenspod
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:
Sasha Ayad: sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
Therapy First at therapyfirst.org (formerly GETA)
Genspect at genspect.org
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting include:
Episode 41 - Trans: A Conversation with Helen Joyce
youtu.be/ziFItCUnWz4?si=onQeVs9-EACblLHB
Episode 55 - Who Gets to Decide What's Normal: A Conversation w/ Lisa Selin Davis
youtu.be/rrWL9X9TybY?feature=shared
Episode 78 — Affirming Reality for Kids with Stephanie Davies-Arai
youtu.be/kV1_XiN4gDs?feature=shared
Episode 132 - How To Have Impossible Conversations About Gender with Peter Boghossian
youtu.be/RnPmG0pcXAc
Episode 144 - "Glinner is a TERF" with Graham Linehan
youtu.be/uJHyJ15mJ-A?feature=shared
