Uploaded August 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 days ago
Chapters:
00:00 Weekend of Workshops Announcement
00:35 Show Open
01:10 Start of Conversation
15:20 Reflecting on Episodes with Mike Bailey
21:26 Reflecting on Episode with James Cantor
28:24 Reflecting on Episode with Julia Mason and Stephen Levine
39:54 Reflecting on Episode with Zhenya Abbruzzese
44:58 Reflecting on Episodes with Jamie Reed, "Rose", and Sara Stockton
50:45 Reflecting on Episode with Hannah Barnes
51:10 Reflecting on Episode with Eliza Mondegreen
55:40 Reflecting on Episodes about schools
Sasha and Stella take time together to dig deeper in reflection and analysis from some of their recent episodes. They also chat a little bit about a few of their latest projects and endeavors including their upcoming book release: When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents. Visit whenkidssaytheyretrans.com to pre-order your copy of the book before Aug 25th and request an invite to their free webinar: When Kids Say They’re Trans: Do’s, Don’ts and Damage Control.
This episode also offers the official announcement with details of their 2023 live parent event. Registration is open for When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Weekend of Workshops, taking place September 21-24, 2023 in Annapolis, MD. Register by August 20th to take advantage of early bird pricing.
LINKS:
Pre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents
whenkidssaytheyretrans.com
When Kids Say They’re Trans: Weekend of Workshops | September 21-24, 2023
whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/weekend-of-workshops
When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents (Press Release)
thebookseller.com/rights/swift-press-signs-parental-guide-from-therapists-ayad-omalley-and-marchiano
Sasha’s GETA Workshop
Online Visibility and Political Identities: Working with Gender | August 19, 2023
eventbrite.com/e/online-visibility-and-political-identities-working-with-gender-tickets-671422692347?aff=oddtdtcreator
Genspect "The Bigger Picture" Continues | Denver, Colorado (November 4-5, 2023)
genspect1.telltix.com/events/genspect1/943746
Genspect Launches New Think Tank to Draft a Gender Care Framework
genspect.org/genspect-launches-new-think-tank-to-draft-a-gender-care-framework
FEATURED EPISODES:
Episode 116 — Identity Politics vs. The Pursuit of Knowledge with Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/dHqDGVRzoGk
Follow-Up Episode: 116 Part II - Retraction w/ Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/0v8Tw93s2T0
Episode 120 — Pioneer Series: Researching Sexual Behaviors with James Cantor
youtu.be/yxwazu_eIyQ
Episode 93 — A Takedown of Gender Politics with Wesley Yang
youtu.be/mOZE820t1V4
Episode 114 — The Dutch Protocol: A Deprivation of Sexual Development with Julia Mason and Stephen Levine
youtu.be/QEiE_porazM
Episode 118 - Prioritizing Expensive & Invasive Interventions: American Healthcare w/ Zhenya Abbruzzese
youtu.be/YhLA02Dtupc
Episode 109 — What If We Are All Wrong: A Mother’s Regret with Rose
youtu.be/pEZkjRzJnFU
Episode 112 — Jamie Reed: “Every Ethical Line I Drew Was Walked On… We Are Hurting People”
youtu.be/QafpwKrz-lw
Episode 125 — From Gender Expert to Skeptical Dissenter with Sara Stockton
youtu.be/fRoGVXPycEI
Episode 104 — No Time to Think with Hannah Barnes: The Downfall of GIDS at the Tavistock
youtu.be/ftaeHf2_V8Y
Episode 115 — How Online Communities Shape Thought, Desire, and Doubt about Transition: with Eliza Mondegreen
youtu.be/3tAvRWq7wOA
Episode 117 — Gender, Parents, and Public Schools with Kate Parker
youtu.be/b1mDcu6P620
Episode 121 — Practical Advice for Managing Gender Identity in Schools with Dr. Kate Goonan
youtu.be/mpAlk1FWLr0
Episode 124 — A Culture of Desistance: Schools and Gender w/ Alex Capo
youtu.be/6U75Nh917Es
Episode 119 — Who Gets Embroiled in the Gender Debates
youtu.be/ztm0ryRtRQw
Please visit widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or to join our listener community.
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups:
Sasha Ayad: inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
GETA -- genderexploratory.com
Genspect -- genspect.org
Chapters:
00:00 Weekend of Workshops Announcement
00:35 Show Open
01:10 Start of Conversation
15:20 Reflecting on Episodes with Mike Bailey
21:26 Reflecting on Episode with James Cantor
28:24 Reflecting on Episode with Julia Mason and Stephen Levine
39:54 Reflecting on Episode with Zhenya Abbruzzese
44:58 Reflecting on Episodes with Jamie Reed, "Rose", and Sara Stockton
50:45 Reflecting on Episode with Hannah Barnes
51:10 Reflecting on Episode with Eliza Mondegreen
55:40 Reflecting on Episodes about schools
Sasha and Stella take time together to dig deeper in reflection and analysis from some of their recent episodes. They also chat a little bit about a few of their latest projects and endeavors including their upcoming book release: When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents. Visit whenkidssaytheyretrans.com to pre-order your copy of the book before Aug 25th and request an invite to their free webinar: When Kids Say They’re Trans: Do’s, Don’ts and Damage Control.
This episode also offers the official announcement with details of their 2023 live parent event. Registration is open for When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Weekend of Workshops, taking place September 21-24, 2023 in Annapolis, MD. Register by August 20th to take advantage of early bird pricing.
LINKS:
Pre-Order When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents
whenkidssaytheyretrans.com
When Kids Say They’re Trans: Weekend of Workshops | September 21-24, 2023
whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/weekend-of-workshops
When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents (Press Release)
thebookseller.com/rights/swift-press-signs-parental-guide-from-therapists-ayad-omalley-and-marchiano
Sasha’s GETA Workshop
Online Visibility and Political Identities: Working with Gender | August 19, 2023
eventbrite.com/e/online-visibility-and-political-identities-working-with-gender-tickets-671422692347?aff=oddtdtcreator
Genspect "The Bigger Picture" Continues | Denver, Colorado (November 4-5, 2023)
genspect1.telltix.com/events/genspect1/943746
Genspect Launches New Think Tank to Draft a Gender Care Framework
genspect.org/genspect-launches-new-think-tank-to-draft-a-gender-care-framework
FEATURED EPISODES:
Episode 116 — Identity Politics vs. The Pursuit of Knowledge with Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/dHqDGVRzoGk
Follow-Up Episode: 116 Part II - Retraction w/ Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/0v8Tw93s2T0
Episode 120 — Pioneer Series: Researching Sexual Behaviors with James Cantor
youtu.be/yxwazu_eIyQ
Episode 93 — A Takedown of Gender Politics with Wesley Yang
youtu.be/mOZE820t1V4
Episode 114 — The Dutch Protocol: A Deprivation of Sexual Development with Julia Mason and Stephen Levine
youtu.be/QEiE_porazM
Episode 118 - Prioritizing Expensive & Invasive Interventions: American Healthcare w/ Zhenya Abbruzzese
youtu.be/YhLA02Dtupc
Episode 109 — What If We Are All Wrong: A Mother’s Regret with Rose
youtu.be/pEZkjRzJnFU
Episode 112 — Jamie Reed: “Every Ethical Line I Drew Was Walked On… We Are Hurting People”
youtu.be/QafpwKrz-lw
Episode 125 — From Gender Expert to Skeptical Dissenter with Sara Stockton
youtu.be/fRoGVXPycEI
Episode 104 — No Time to Think with Hannah Barnes: The Downfall of GIDS at the Tavistock
youtu.be/ftaeHf2_V8Y
Episode 115 — How Online Communities Shape Thought, Desire, and Doubt about Transition: with Eliza Mondegreen
youtu.be/3tAvRWq7wOA
Episode 117 — Gender, Parents, and Public Schools with Kate Parker
youtu.be/b1mDcu6P620
Episode 121 — Practical Advice for Managing Gender Identity in Schools with Dr. Kate Goonan
youtu.be/mpAlk1FWLr0
Episode 124 — A Culture of Desistance: Schools and Gender w/ Alex Capo
youtu.be/6U75Nh917Es
Episode 119 — Who Gets Embroiled in the Gender Debates
youtu.be/ztm0ryRtRQw
Please visit widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or to join our listener community.
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups:
Sasha Ayad: inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
GETA -- genderexploratory.com
Genspect -- genspect.org










