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The Hangmen became incredibly popular in the Washington, D.C. area and even performed for the Kennedys. How did the band land that very high profile gig?
Tom Guernsey: We got some high-powered management after the record took off. A Washington lawyer, a television producer and a prominent businessman formed a corporation to manage us. They were all very well connected in Washington, D.C. and got us a number of high visibility gigs playing at embassies in town. There was a lot of press about us in The Washington Post and eventually Ethel Kennedy asked us to play at a charity event at the Kennedy home in McLean, Virginia. I remember sitting around in the kitchen with Ethel Kennedy and the rest of the band casually drinking beer and talking before the show...and then I helped myself to a bottle of their scotch and the band got smashed. Our managers were not very happy about that!
60sgaragebands.com (60s): You formed The Hangmen when members of your previous band, The Reekers, were attending college. Where did you locate the members who would eventually become The Hangmen?
Tom Guernsey (TG): I met George Daly at Montgomery Jr. College in 1965. The other Reekers were away at other colleges, so George and I decided to put a band together really just as away to help pay for our expenses at school
We recorded our album Bittersweet in Nashville for Monument after doing our second single 'Faces' there. In the 'Faces' sessions, we also re-recorded 'What A Girl Can't Do' with our first singer, Dave Ottley. I recall that it was not very inspiring and Monument never saw fit to release it even on the album when it came out. When we came back to Nashville six months later to do the album, we had replaced Ottley with Tony Taylor. In retrospect, this was probably a big mistake. Dave's voice, while in some ways inferior to Tony's, was much more interesting to me (as was Dave himself). In any case, Monument hooked us up with producer Buzz Cason, who was part of Buddy Holly's band The Crickets way back when, and I believe is still producing in Nashville.
Buzz was very methodical and hands on. He had us demo up all the possible songs for the album in a smaller studio in Nashville with him and we experimented with various things—chords, bridges, harmonies, different instruments, etc. Then we took the best songs in to Monuments mains studios and recorded them. It still amazes me that we did the album on a three-track machine! At any rate, we cranked the tunes out in a couple of weeks and that was it. Now I think there is some really nice stuff on the album, but it was so poorly mastered, the levels so low, that it did not have any punch, and really did not sound that good. I had produced the single 'What A Girl Can't Do,' and was just 19 at the time and naively thought that I should be producing the album. Also, we all thought of Nashville as a foreign land of country music where people didn't have a clue what we were trying to do. We didn't realize until much later that we should have taken the whole project more seriously. I think we spent more time in Nashville bars than the studio. Oh well, it was fun.
The Hangmen became incredibly popular in the Washington, D.C. area and even performed for the Kennedys. How did the band land that very high profile gig?
Tom Guernsey: We got some high-powered management after the record took off. A Washington lawyer, a television producer and a prominent businessman formed a corporation to manage us. They were all very well connected in Washington, D.C. and got us a number of high visibility gigs playing at embassies in town. There was a lot of press about us in The Washington Post and eventually Ethel Kennedy asked us to play at a charity event at the Kennedy home in McLean, Virginia. I remember sitting around in the kitchen with Ethel Kennedy and the rest of the band casually drinking beer and talking before the show...and then I helped myself to a bottle of their scotch and the band got smashed. Our managers were not very happy about that!
60sgaragebands.com (60s): You formed The Hangmen when members of your previous band, The Reekers, were attending college. Where did you locate the members who would eventually become The Hangmen?
Tom Guernsey (TG): I met George Daly at Montgomery Jr. College in 1965. The other Reekers were away at other colleges, so George and I decided to put a band together really just as away to help pay for our expenses at school
We recorded our album Bittersweet in Nashville for Monument after doing our second single 'Faces' there. In the 'Faces' sessions, we also re-recorded 'What A Girl Can't Do' with our first singer, Dave Ottley. I recall that it was not very inspiring and Monument never saw fit to release it even on the album when it came out. When we came back to Nashville six months later to do the album, we had replaced Ottley with Tony Taylor. In retrospect, this was probably a big mistake. Dave's voice, while in some ways inferior to Tony's, was much more interesting to me (as was Dave himself). In any case, Monument hooked us up with producer Buzz Cason, who was part of Buddy Holly's band The Crickets way back when, and I believe is still producing in Nashville.
Buzz was very methodical and hands on. He had us demo up all the possible songs for the album in a smaller studio in Nashville with him and we experimented with various things—chords, bridges, harmonies, different instruments, etc. Then we took the best songs in to Monuments mains studios and recorded them. It still amazes me that we did the album on a three-track machine! At any rate, we cranked the tunes out in a couple of weeks and that was it. Now I think there is some really nice stuff on the album, but it was so poorly mastered, the levels so low, that it did not have any punch, and really did not sound that good. I had produced the single 'What A Girl Can't Do,' and was just 19 at the time and naively thought that I should be producing the album. Also, we all thought of Nashville as a foreign land of country music where people didn't have a clue what we were trying to do. We didn't realize until much later that we should have taken the whole project more seriously. I think we spent more time in Nashville bars than the studio. Oh well, it was fun.




![Toni Brown and Terry Garthwaite, Midnight Blues
Joy of Cooking were one of the earliest [some say THE earliest] female-led rock bands. Formed in Berkeley in 1967 by pianist and main songwriter Toni Brown, along with folk-singing guitarist Terry Garthwaite (also known as Ruby Green), their music was an ear-catching polyrhythmic amalgam of folk, rock, jazz, blues and gospel elements driven by the duos interweaving vocal verve atop a freewheeling, innovative three-man rhythms section. The rest of the band consisted of bass guitarist David Garthwaite (Terrys brother), drummer Fritz Kasten and percussion player Ron Wilson. Keyboard player Stevie Roseman replaced Toni Brown for a time and bass players Happy Smith and eventually Jeff Neighbor replaced David Garthwaite on bass guitar. The music was a mix of hippy(sic) sensibility on blues and folk roots, and the lyrics often reflected feminist or environmental themes.
Joy of Cooking recorded three albums with Capitol Records. Brown and Garthwaite had solo careers afterwards and also released albums as a duo, mostly notably Cross Country, Midnight Blues is, to our ears, one of the standout cuts from that fine album recorded in Nashville.
The San Francisco Chronicles Jon Carroll described The Joy of Cooking as a remarkable rock and roll band, half ballads and half boogie, with a driving rhythm section fronted by two swell women, Toni Brown (a smart, crafty songwriter who could evoke sentiment without sentimentality) and Terry Garthwaite (who sings like an angel with dirty wings.)
Rather unusually (especially for the time) the members of the band were all over thirty when they cut their first record. According to some, it is for this reason that they and Frank Sinatra veteran John Palladino to produce their first record.
If you like this cut (and if you dont youve got a hole in your soul), you should check out our posting of the Joys finest studio outing (in our opinion), Sometimes Like A River (Loving You), one of the most beautiful love songs ever written, in our humble opinion.
Thanks for falling by. Toni Brown and Terry Garthwaite, Midnight Blues](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/esfn9URRlXI/mqdefault.jpg)




![Karel Goeyvaerts, Sonata für zwei Klaviere, 2. Satz(K.Goeyvaerts & Karlheinz Stockhausen, Klavier)
Darmstadt, 1951: The now famous, often-repeated ancecdote about the premiere of the second movement of the Sonata for Two Pianos, which Karel Goeyvaerts and Karlheinz Stockhausen presented in the composition course given by Theodor W. Adorno: Adorno reacted to the sparse sequence of notes with the question, Why did you write it for two pianos? Goeyvaerts who spoke only a little German was thrown off at first; but then Stockhausen stood up and offered a clear analysis of the composition. Adorno asked about the classical foundations of music, such as motif, antecedent and consequent phrase. Professor, answered Stockhausen, you are looking for a chicken in an abstract painting. In a radio address three years later, Adorno discussed the scene again: Critics cannot be blamed for not having understood this latest form of rationality set free; for, by its own agenda, it wishes not to be understood but to be demonstrated. Any question regarding the function of any phenomenon in the context of the composition is responded to with derivations from within the system itself.
After studies at the Royal Flemish Music Conservatory in Antwerp, Goeyvaerts studied composition in Paris with Darius Milhaud and analysis with Olivier Messiaen. He also studied ondes martenot with Maurice Martenot, who invented the instrument (Delaere 2001).
In 1951, Goeyvaerts attended the famous Darmstadt New Music Summer School where he met Karlheinz Stockhausen who was five years younger. Both were devout Catholics and found ways of integrating religious numerology into their serial compositions. They found themselves deep in conversation, and performed a movement from Goeyvaertss Nummer 1, Sonata for 2 pianos in the composition course by Theodor Adorno there. They were both astonished upon hearing for the first time Messiaens Mode de valeurs et dintensités (from Quatre Études de rhythme), in a recording by the composer which Antoine Goléa played at a lecture. These experiences together convinced Stockhausen he should study with Messiaen.
Goeyvaerts became very excited in 1952 when he learned that Stockhausen had access in Paris to a generator of sine waves. Goeyvaerts saw them as an important discovery for music: the purest sound possible. At the time, Stockhausen did not share his enthusiasm, owing partly to the inability with the equipment at hand to superimpose sine tones. Only later, after taking up his new post at the NWDR Electronic Music Studio in Cologne, did Stockhausen find more suitable equipment, in July 1953 (Toop 1979). One of the first works produced there was Goeyvaertss Nr. 5 with Pure Tones, which Stockhausen helped his friend to realize. (When Stockhausen seemingly abandoned his work with sine waves and returned to writing compositions for solo piano, Goeyvaerts felt that Stockhausen was abandoning an important discovery and took up the matter from a philosophical point of view himself.)
There has been some controversy about who wrote the first European total serial composition. His Nummer 2 (1951) for 13 instruments is one of the contenders (Delaere 1994, 13), as is his Nummer 1 (1950) Sonata for Two Pianos, and the Sonata for Two Pianos by Michel Fano (1950), depending on definitions of total serialism (Toop 1974).
After withdrawing from the musical world for a while, he accepted a position in 1970 at the Institute for Psychoacoustic and Electronic Music (IPEM) in Ghent, which led to several other prestigious appointments in Belgium. His works from after 1960 take on aspects of minimalism, the best-known examples being his series of five Litanies (1979 82) and his final work, the opera Aquarius (1983 93). Though minimalism is ordinarily thought of as a reaction against serialism, for Goeyvaerts both techniques were merely subcategories of a non-dynamic, static music (Delaere, Beirens, and Staples 2004, 32 33). Analyses of his early serial compositions (especially the electronic Nr. 4, met dode tonen [with dead tones] and Nr. 5, met zuivere tonen [with pure tones]) reveal how close the connections actually are (Sabbe 1977). [The perpetrator of this channel take the liberty of expressing his strong disagreement with Goeyvaerts in this matter, and regrets this composers sad regression into minimalism at the end of his career.] Goeyvaerts died suddenly in 1993. Karel Goeyvaerts, Sonata für zwei Klaviere, 2. Satz(K.Goeyvaerts & Karlheinz Stockhausen, Klavier)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gDDFbMKde-c/mqdefault.jpg)
