PurpleSun | [TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Fearsome Fleet Green Star 2 in 20.36s @PurpleSunTAS | Uploaded 4 years ago | Updated 3 hours ago
Luigi, Yoshi and P2 flutter to a Green Star in the middle of nowhere in 20.36 seconds [IGT, 1222 frames].
I waited the cutscene to move the Fizzlit along in its cycle just a little bit, which let me have the best angle for the entire flutter, before and after the bounce. Without this wait, I would have had to make the first half of the fluttering a little bit slower so the second half would have a good angle (the tightest angle it can be without losing speed).
Jumping onto the statue at the start saved ~0.3s over using momentum from the yellow platforms, and P2 saved a little bit of time breaking Yoshi's egg early.
As explained above, the angles for the flutter were tight and made sure to get sideways fluttering speed, which is a lot faster than backwards fluttering speed.
I had to make the most out of the height of each flutter for the first half to be high enough to bounce off the Fizzlit in mid-air, but this meant sacrificing a bit of acceleration, as you accelerate a bit faster by cancelling flutters earlier.
During the second half of the fluttering, I was already at top speed so I could gain height from a few flutters, however, you dip below top speed if you flutter for more than 26 frames (0.43s) after pressing A (although it gradually regains that speed), so after getting a lot of height, I then started chaining quick flutters to keep at top speed.
I then ended by holding a flutter and releasing it to have top speed with some vertical speed too, dismounting to carry this speed into the star.
Because of the wait for the cycle of the Fizzlit when skipping cutscenes, it is ~0.1s faster to do GS2 before GS1 in a full game run as the Fizzlit cycle is a little bit better with cutscenes.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun
Luigi, Yoshi and P2 flutter to a Green Star in the middle of nowhere in 20.36 seconds [IGT, 1222 frames].
I waited the cutscene to move the Fizzlit along in its cycle just a little bit, which let me have the best angle for the entire flutter, before and after the bounce. Without this wait, I would have had to make the first half of the fluttering a little bit slower so the second half would have a good angle (the tightest angle it can be without losing speed).
Jumping onto the statue at the start saved ~0.3s over using momentum from the yellow platforms, and P2 saved a little bit of time breaking Yoshi's egg early.
As explained above, the angles for the flutter were tight and made sure to get sideways fluttering speed, which is a lot faster than backwards fluttering speed.
I had to make the most out of the height of each flutter for the first half to be high enough to bounce off the Fizzlit in mid-air, but this meant sacrificing a bit of acceleration, as you accelerate a bit faster by cancelling flutters earlier.
During the second half of the fluttering, I was already at top speed so I could gain height from a few flutters, however, you dip below top speed if you flutter for more than 26 frames (0.43s) after pressing A (although it gradually regains that speed), so after getting a lot of height, I then started chaining quick flutters to keep at top speed.
I then ended by holding a flutter and releasing it to have top speed with some vertical speed too, dismounting to carry this speed into the star.
Because of the wait for the cycle of the Fizzlit when skipping cutscenes, it is ~0.1s faster to do GS2 before GS1 in a full game run as the Fizzlit cycle is a little bit better with cutscenes.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun
![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Fearsome Fleet Green Star 2 in 20.36s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3R1MdYG6iDM/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Fearsome Fleet Green Star 2 in 20.36s
Luigi, Yoshi and P2 flutter to a Green Star in the middle of nowhere in 20.36 seconds [IGT, 1222 frames].
I waited the cutscene to move the Fizzlit along in its cycle just a little bit, which let me have the best angle for the entire flutter, before and after the bounce. Without this wait, I would have had to make the first half of the fluttering a little bit slower so the second half would have a good angle (the tightest angle it can be without losing speed).
Jumping onto the statue at the start saved ~0.3s over using momentum from the yellow platforms, and P2 saved a little bit of time breaking Yoshis egg early.
As explained above, the angles for the flutter were tight and made sure to get sideways fluttering speed, which is a lot faster than backwards fluttering speed.
I had to make the most out of the height of each flutter for the first half to be high enough to bounce off the Fizzlit in mid-air, but this meant sacrificing a bit of acceleration, as you accelerate a bit faster by cancelling flutters earlier.
During the second half of the fluttering, I was already at top speed so I could gain height from a few flutters, however, you dip below top speed if you flutter for more than 26 frames (0.43s) after pressing A (although it gradually regains that speed), so after getting a lot of height, I then started chaining quick flutters to keep at top speed.
I then ended by holding a flutter and releasing it to have top speed with some vertical speed too, dismounting to carry this speed into the star.
Because of the wait for the cycle of the Fizzlit when skipping cutscenes, it is ~0.1s faster to do GS2 before GS1 in a full game run as the Fizzlit cycle is a little bit better with cutscenes.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG1: Honeyhive - Trouble on the Tower in 0.5xA (technically) [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3sWNLTpriLE/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG1: Honeyhive - Trouble on the Tower in 0.5xA (technically) [Mario]
A is required to be held for several things as it gets more height from bounces and spins.
This is technically 0.5xA - I did the beginning up to the wooden button 0x, and then realised I needed to hold A for the flipbug bounce, so I pressed A in the middle of a spin where it would have no effect. So the video is actually 1x but the level is possible 0.5x. Someone could do the beginning 0.5x and just splice my bit in.
This saves 3 A presses:
#1 Sideflip up the area with the wooden button
#2 Sideflip up to the launch star
#3 Star grab
In testing these strats, I originally went to the fountain area after getting up to the top in order to raise the flipbugs down there to get up to the launch star, but then I remembered that I didnt actually defeat the first flipbug, and had the idea of raising it after getting up from the first bounce. This saved a lot of time.
The final A press save was Annoyings idea. Its barely not possible to grab the star by spinning from the battlements, and it wasnt known that you could get up the windmill without pressing A. Annoying theorised that if you could, you could get the checkpoint, die to respawn the Piranha Plant used earlier, get up the windmill, defeat the boss, and then go back to the launch star, bounce off the respawned Piranha, and fall all the way down onto the star.
#SuperMarioGalaxy #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Lava Lair in 0xA (7xA) presses [Mario, w/ CM]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/42FjyoDjVw4/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Lava Lair in 0xA (7xA) presses [Mario, w/ CM]
Mario crashes Bowsers Big Lava Power Party in 0 gameplay A presses (plus 7 presses for dialogue).
I had P2 out as this will be part of the ABC crews World 2 project. You can join the Discord if youd like: https://discord.gg/qWVzVF6
As a disclaimer(?) I did use the held A of P2, but its use isnt actually necessary and was only for funny shenanigans with the Whomp. So the challenge is 0xA if you can forgive the P2 fun, as it wont see much use in World 2 besides coin avoidance.
In SMG2 only, you can grab pull stars with B, provided you arent already holding A. I grabbed a starbit to try to make it somewhat clear that I pressed B, although it isnt as visible as I had hoped.
Tail grinding (or edge grinding) is used a lot in this run, and its faster than running: running is 13 hspd whereas grinding is 16 hspd. Side-by-side comparison: https://twitter.com/PurpleSunSR/status/1481294726275940361
At 2:01, I did a trick where you can get stuck ground pounding inside a floor, and after a couple of seconds it cancels the ground pound and restores your spin.
The use of the Hammer Bro to get to the meteor at the gate was discovered by WaluigiGoesWa and myself after the previous 1xA video: https://youtu.be/7oxmbuNOlFs
At 3:17, it sounds like Mario jumps, but I went back and made absolutely sure I wasnt pressing A, and yet still got the noise, and the noise also happens sometimes when ground pounding the meteors, so Im not really sure what it is.
The final time was 6:05.48.
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![[TAS] SMG2: Sky Station Comet in 36.65s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/45CRdaKNje0/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Sky Station Comet in 36.65s
Luigi and P2 dispatch of Peewee Piranha in 36.65s [IGT, 2199 frames].
This comet joins Gravity Gauntlet and Stone Cyclone in being possible without clocks, although whether this is possible with cutscenes is another issue, due to the timeloss of land cancelling and potential timeloss of trolley cycles.
The first cutscene skip was delayed to move the trolleys further along their cycle; the second was delayed to pick up the starbits without losing in-game time.
At the start, a backflip spin barely making it onto the ledge followed by a single jump spin entered the launch star 4 frames earlier than the IL backflip wallkick spin strat.
On the trolley planet, I originally tested between nemis route (https://youtu.be/_XTG6l0rmwQ?t=118) and attempts with the trolley momentum boost used in ILs of the normal star. No luck with the latter.
When messing with nemis route, I stumbled on a known technique that I had forgotten about - fast slope jumps. There are ways to land on a slope and slide with high speed for at least 1 frame, and jumping from that frame conserves the speed.
It seems to have something to do with going neutral or at least losing running control on a particular part of the slope. It can also happen sliding on a bumpy part (this vid in Honeyhive shows a jump off a small bump on the tree https://youtu.be/xbvlG6LSj28?t=8). Pressing Z just before this speed boost can gain even more speed.
Getting this kind of fast slope jump off the opaque crystal saved 0.5s, getting up to 31.5 hspd. It could be improved, though, as with a slower double jump setup onto the crystal, I had managed to get 34 hspd.
For the Peewee fight, the first egg break was done by running around and single jumping into a ground pound that broke the egg mid-animation as Peewee stepped towards Luigi. This saved 16 frames (0.26s) over long jumping and spinning over the top into a ground pound.
I had learned from Shadow64 just how powerful starbit stunning Peewee can be when helping with his Any% TAS: https://youtu.be/IzcchUgsDMo.
After breaking the egg, Peewee can only be hit once it has landed, and starbit stunning immediately after breaking the egg will make it land much earlier.
It lands so early that Luigi cant spin for the earliest hit, so P2 spins instead.
The first phase only ends after Peewee has landed from the body hit (there are clips of people softlocking because Peewee hadnt landed https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulSeductiveCaribouHumbleLife-X5CzompDjNMCnL9I ), so starbit stunning is used again to make it land earlier. These stuns save 0.5-0.6s each.
I have no idea what happened in the second phase.
For some reason, perhaps a mix of Peewees angle, position on the planet, and the particular spot the starbit hit, as well as Luigis position, Peewee got dragged down and landed immediately after the egg break, much faster than any regular starbit stun, and this allowed Luigis ground pound to register as a body hit.
I have managed to replicate this without moving P2, so I am certain it has nothing to do with it. Also, in replicating it, I understood that Peewees movement mattered a lot, as attempts where Peewee didnt turn so hard to the right didnt work. Needs extensive analysis.
This made clockless possible, as it saved 13 frames, ending the fight with 6 frames remaining.
Spinning into the star saved 1 frame.
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![[TAS] SMG2: Flip-Swap 1 in 0xA [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4P-QM9qdNNE/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Flip-Swap 1 in 0xA [Mario]
Think Before You Shake completed without pressing A.
This saves 1 A press from the previous count, avoiding jumping into the star by using flip panel displacement to get height and grab the star.
Displacement was first found with Tox Boxes, with some small jarring movements when grabbing a wall after sliding off the top of a Tox Box. (https://youtu.be/h5ihRY0Syro)
Nothing was understood about it but it looked like it could save an A press or two in Stone Cyclone and Beach Bowl 3/C.
Then LancerDeltarune showed off some upwarp in Flip-Swap, which was theorised to be displacement using flip panels: https://clips.twitch.tv/ScaryTacitWitchPanicBasket
The theory was that, because momentum when sliding off a slope is stored until you grab a wall, displacement can also be stored by sliding off a moving platform and then grabbing a wall while that platform is moving.
SaladBowl then went to testing this for ABC purposes, streaming attempts at getting displacement and managing to get a couple, at least proving it would be possible.
How this works: I slide off the side of the last red panel to store momentum and slope properties, and then fall off the star platforms edge, spin to move the panel, and then grab the wall to get displaced off the wall and up over the star.
While testing this, I learned that you can either get warped downwards or upwards depending on what way the panel is moving. If I had grabbed a wall from the spin right after the slide, Mario would have shot down underneath the wall.
I also learned that running off the star platforms edge will cause the displacement to lose all its horizontal speed (or at least running the opposite way the displacement will go). I had to hold neutral and slide off the edge so that the displacement would get enough speed to get to the star.
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![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Cloudy Court Green Star 1 in 5.38s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/55cF7iXMaFA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Cloudy Court Green Star 1 in 5.38s
Luigi cloud sideflips to a Green Star in 5.38 seconds [IGT, 353 frames].
If cloud long jumps break the game horizontally, cloud sideflips break it vertically.
Combining the y velocity of a sideflip with momentum of a cloud forming, the initial velocity is 42 - a normal sideflip is 32 by comparison.
Sideflips also have a horizontal advantage, nearly reaching the same speed of a regular long jump.
This brokenness was seen in sonicpackers Galaxy Generator GS2 TAS: https://youtu.be/Y82G8cRACY4?t=59
Cloud sideflips are instant sideflips, performed by holding Z (which would be pressed to cancel the cloud-creating spin and land earlier) and holding the direction opposite Luigis facing angle and pressing A before landing.
After getting the Cloud Flower and forming the first cloud, I had to go neutral before landing to keep running speed to be able to long jump early.
For the first cloud sideflip, I held the direction of the facing angle before holding opposite and pressing A - this ensured I would have virtually 0 hspd so I wouldnt fly backwards, away from the star. However, this also dropped initial y velocity by a couple of units so there may be some room for improvement here.
The second sideflip was a full one, getting as much velocity as possible to get up to the star without spinning.
ps. i made this and GS2 and a prelim GS3 one last week but havent recorded until now lol
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![[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet GS2 in 20.55s (proof-of-concept)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5PdldVGADec/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet GS2 in 20.55s (proof-of-concept)
This is a proof-of-concept of a new strat that gets a rightward lava wall boost to start the skip, and also gets a second coin to allow for an extra lava boost for faster travel across the Whomp platform.
Even unoptimised, this strat saves at least 1.2s over the original strat of getting a downwards boost and no extra boost near the end.
The strat should have a faster way to get the first boost, as well as a way to catch the gravity without having to pull back earlier on (this was done to not overshoot the quick gravity change that happens before the main one, which is a key part of being able to pull back onto the lava for an extra boost).
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![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Coaster Green Star 2 in 51.90s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5zBcZT8DuUc/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Coaster Green Star 2 in 51.90s
Luigi coasts to a further Green Star in 51.90 seconds [3114 frames, IGT].
This branched off the Green Star 1 TAS: https://youtu.be/D5V8ibOL_tc
Branching off at the end of the slide, a harder right turn was made to go down the right-hand path. There could be improvement down this next slide, as I made avoiding the first and second structures more twisty than it probably needed to be.
The spiral was interesting to optimise, as going along the inside would appear to be faster, but making a lighter turn to go along the outside of the bend turned out to be faster, due to the speed gained from the steeper slope.
Jumping onto the launching rail was faster than rolling into it, but jumping later than I did wouldve been a frame slower.
I learned something interesting from the last bend: you can get stuck and slowed down by the brown rails, but at the end, youll get an extra burst of speed, so you dont lose time (and may even save time over a longer stretch) but you get the added bonus of the slowdown helping you turn harder down the slope.
The slowdown in this last section helped to be able to roll all the way to the star without having to jump, and the boost made sure no overall speed was lost, saving at least 0.2s.
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![[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet Comet in 0xA [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5zZMlp9EaWA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet Comet in 0xA [Mario]
Mario races against time across the castle in 0 A presses.
A big part of this video is it is coinless: its possible to get through the normal wheel route 0xA but (currently) only by getting coins to replenish health for more firebar boosts around the wheel.
2P could make coinless normal route easy too by freezing the firebars while holding A, making it 0x + 0.5x.
A lava boost at 0:24 or 0:29 wouldve been faster than the spins, but I liked the spins for just messing around with movement. It also made the timer tight at the end for added fake tension.
I grabbed the starbits for testing out the normal wheel route; starbits are helpful for moving Goombas about to bounce on them.
The OoB had already been found for GS2: https://youtu.be/8S3gnpyu6L0
It works because the waterboxes are wider than the walls and can be entered on their edges.
I had to slow swim up the wall at the start of the OoB because spins in any direction would bonk and either fall out of the water or clip back inbounds.
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