PurpleSun | [TAS] SMG2: Flip-Swap 1 in 0xA [Mario] @PurpleSunTAS | Uploaded 3 years ago | Updated 1 hour ago
Think Before You Shake completed without pressing A.
This saves 1 A press from the previous count, avoiding jumping into the star by using flip panel displacement to get height and grab the star.
Displacement was first found with Tox Boxes, with some small jarring movements when grabbing a wall after sliding off the top of a Tox Box. (youtu.be/h5ihRY0Syro)
Nothing was understood about it but it looked like it could save an A press or two in Stone Cyclone and Beach Bowl 3/C.
Then LancerDeltarune showed off some upwarp in Flip-Swap, which was theorised to be displacement using flip panels: clips.twitch.tv/ScaryTacitWitchPanicBasket
The theory was that, because momentum when sliding off a slope is stored until you grab a wall, displacement can also be stored by sliding off a moving platform and then grabbing a wall while that platform is moving.
SaladBowl then went to testing this for ABC purposes, streaming attempts at getting displacement and managing to get a couple, at least proving it would be possible.
How this works: I slide off the side of the last red panel to store momentum and slope properties, and then fall off the star platform's edge, spin to move the panel, and then grab the wall to get displaced off the wall and up over the star.
While testing this, I learned that you can either get warped downwards or upwards depending on what way the panel is moving. If I had grabbed a wall from the spin right after the slide, Mario would have shot down underneath the wall.
I also learned that running off the star platform's edge will cause the displacement to lose all its horizontal speed (or at least running the opposite way the displacement will go). I had to hold neutral and slide off the edge so that the displacement would get enough speed to get to the star.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge
Think Before You Shake completed without pressing A.
This saves 1 A press from the previous count, avoiding jumping into the star by using flip panel displacement to get height and grab the star.
Displacement was first found with Tox Boxes, with some small jarring movements when grabbing a wall after sliding off the top of a Tox Box. (youtu.be/h5ihRY0Syro)
Nothing was understood about it but it looked like it could save an A press or two in Stone Cyclone and Beach Bowl 3/C.
Then LancerDeltarune showed off some upwarp in Flip-Swap, which was theorised to be displacement using flip panels: clips.twitch.tv/ScaryTacitWitchPanicBasket
The theory was that, because momentum when sliding off a slope is stored until you grab a wall, displacement can also be stored by sliding off a moving platform and then grabbing a wall while that platform is moving.
SaladBowl then went to testing this for ABC purposes, streaming attempts at getting displacement and managing to get a couple, at least proving it would be possible.
How this works: I slide off the side of the last red panel to store momentum and slope properties, and then fall off the star platform's edge, spin to move the panel, and then grab the wall to get displaced off the wall and up over the star.
While testing this, I learned that you can either get warped downwards or upwards depending on what way the panel is moving. If I had grabbed a wall from the spin right after the slide, Mario would have shot down underneath the wall.
I also learned that running off the star platform's edge will cause the displacement to lose all its horizontal speed (or at least running the opposite way the displacement will go). I had to hold neutral and slide off the edge so that the displacement would get enough speed to get to the star.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge
![[TAS] SMG2: Flip-Swap 1 in 0xA [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4P-QM9qdNNE/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Flip-Swap 1 in 0xA [Mario]
Think Before You Shake completed without pressing A.
This saves 1 A press from the previous count, avoiding jumping into the star by using flip panel displacement to get height and grab the star.
Displacement was first found with Tox Boxes, with some small jarring movements when grabbing a wall after sliding off the top of a Tox Box. (https://youtu.be/h5ihRY0Syro)
Nothing was understood about it but it looked like it could save an A press or two in Stone Cyclone and Beach Bowl 3/C.
Then LancerDeltarune showed off some upwarp in Flip-Swap, which was theorised to be displacement using flip panels: https://clips.twitch.tv/ScaryTacitWitchPanicBasket
The theory was that, because momentum when sliding off a slope is stored until you grab a wall, displacement can also be stored by sliding off a moving platform and then grabbing a wall while that platform is moving.
SaladBowl then went to testing this for ABC purposes, streaming attempts at getting displacement and managing to get a couple, at least proving it would be possible.
How this works: I slide off the side of the last red panel to store momentum and slope properties, and then fall off the star platforms edge, spin to move the panel, and then grab the wall to get displaced off the wall and up over the star.
While testing this, I learned that you can either get warped downwards or upwards depending on what way the panel is moving. If I had grabbed a wall from the spin right after the slide, Mario would have shot down underneath the wall.
I also learned that running off the star platforms edge will cause the displacement to lose all its horizontal speed (or at least running the opposite way the displacement will go). I had to hold neutral and slide off the edge so that the displacement would get enough speed to get to the star.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Cloudy Court Green Star 1 in 5.38s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/55cF7iXMaFA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Cloudy Court Green Star 1 in 5.38s
Luigi cloud sideflips to a Green Star in 5.38 seconds [IGT, 353 frames].
If cloud long jumps break the game horizontally, cloud sideflips break it vertically.
Combining the y velocity of a sideflip with momentum of a cloud forming, the initial velocity is 42 - a normal sideflip is 32 by comparison.
Sideflips also have a horizontal advantage, nearly reaching the same speed of a regular long jump.
This brokenness was seen in sonicpackers Galaxy Generator GS2 TAS: https://youtu.be/Y82G8cRACY4?t=59
Cloud sideflips are instant sideflips, performed by holding Z (which would be pressed to cancel the cloud-creating spin and land earlier) and holding the direction opposite Luigis facing angle and pressing A before landing.
After getting the Cloud Flower and forming the first cloud, I had to go neutral before landing to keep running speed to be able to long jump early.
For the first cloud sideflip, I held the direction of the facing angle before holding opposite and pressing A - this ensured I would have virtually 0 hspd so I wouldnt fly backwards, away from the star. However, this also dropped initial y velocity by a couple of units so there may be some room for improvement here.
The second sideflip was a full one, getting as much velocity as possible to get up to the star without spinning.
ps. i made this and GS2 and a prelim GS3 one last week but havent recorded until now lol
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![[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet GS2 in 20.55s (proof-of-concept)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5PdldVGADec/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet GS2 in 20.55s (proof-of-concept)
This is a proof-of-concept of a new strat that gets a rightward lava wall boost to start the skip, and also gets a second coin to allow for an extra lava boost for faster travel across the Whomp platform.
Even unoptimised, this strat saves at least 1.2s over the original strat of getting a downwards boost and no extra boost near the end.
The strat should have a faster way to get the first boost, as well as a way to catch the gravity without having to pull back earlier on (this was done to not overshoot the quick gravity change that happens before the main one, which is a key part of being able to pull back onto the lava for an extra boost).
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![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Coaster Green Star 2 in 51.90s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5zBcZT8DuUc/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Rolling Coaster Green Star 2 in 51.90s
Luigi coasts to a further Green Star in 51.90 seconds [3114 frames, IGT].
This branched off the Green Star 1 TAS: https://youtu.be/D5V8ibOL_tc
Branching off at the end of the slide, a harder right turn was made to go down the right-hand path. There could be improvement down this next slide, as I made avoiding the first and second structures more twisty than it probably needed to be.
The spiral was interesting to optimise, as going along the inside would appear to be faster, but making a lighter turn to go along the outside of the bend turned out to be faster, due to the speed gained from the steeper slope.
Jumping onto the launching rail was faster than rolling into it, but jumping later than I did wouldve been a frame slower.
I learned something interesting from the last bend: you can get stuck and slowed down by the brown rails, but at the end, youll get an extra burst of speed, so you dont lose time (and may even save time over a longer stretch) but you get the added bonus of the slowdown helping you turn harder down the slope.
The slowdown in this last section helped to be able to roll all the way to the star without having to jump, and the boost made sure no overall speed was lost, saving at least 0.2s.
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![[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet Comet in 0xA [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5zZMlp9EaWA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Gravity Gauntlet Comet in 0xA [Mario]
Mario races against time across the castle in 0 A presses.
A big part of this video is it is coinless: its possible to get through the normal wheel route 0xA but (currently) only by getting coins to replenish health for more firebar boosts around the wheel.
2P could make coinless normal route easy too by freezing the firebars while holding A, making it 0x + 0.5x.
A lava boost at 0:24 or 0:29 wouldve been faster than the spins, but I liked the spins for just messing around with movement. It also made the timer tight at the end for added fake tension.
I grabbed the starbits for testing out the normal wheel route; starbits are helpful for moving Goombas about to bounce on them.
The OoB had already been found for GS2: https://youtu.be/8S3gnpyu6L0
It works because the waterboxes are wider than the walls and can be entered on their edges.
I had to slow swim up the wall at the start of the OoB because spins in any direction would bonk and either fall out of the water or clip back inbounds.
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![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy: Beach Bowl Secret in 2xA Presses [OUTDATED, Luigi]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6KqajvTMOuA/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy: Beach Bowl Secret in 2xA Presses [OUTDATED, Luigi]
Luigi megasideflips up waterfalls to collect a star in 2 A presses.
This is a clean up of the 0.5x that was previously needed to get the shell up to the chest, and get up to the wall before the first sling star using a Cataquack.
UPDATE: This was outdated just a few hours later. Salad included the new strat here: https://youtu.be/apNNtySsCS0
The shell issue was dealt with by outswimming it to the surface, jumping out of water by shaking the controller, and bouncing off the shell as it comes up.
The wall was improved by bringing a Cataquack to the waterfalls as Ice Luigi and forming an ice panel on the wall that can be stood on once the Ice Flower runs out. From here, you can spin to the wall and wallkick up to the sling star.
The next part is interesting. What wasnt known when making the spliced 2.5xA video nearly two years ago was that the megasideflip here has, as far as we know at the moment, some strange requirements.
If you skip the sling star (which currently isnt possible without an extra A press), you can do a megasideflip straight away.
However, if you take the sling star, you cant do that, possibly due to tilt or the cameras resting position. Instead you have to get another Ice Flower and then form an ice panel on the wall.
The farfetchedness of this means it shouldnt really be the case, but so far weve failed to get a megasideflip without doing this first, despite jumping with the same angles and positions. Needs more experimenting.
So I had to spin over to the purple Piranha plant, defeat it for the Ice Flower, and then backwards spin back over to the main platform in order to make an ice panel.
With this set up, I was able to megasideflip up to the next sling star.
For some reason, hitting a Goomba mid-air with an ice spin makes Ice Luigi bounce up (but not like a normal bounce), so you can bounce off it again.
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![[TAS Demo] SMG2: Honeybloom 1 in 1:23.35](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7UL0mMjUSrE/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS Demo] SMG2: Honeybloom 1 in 1:23.35
This is based on the in-game timer, which stops during the life counter scene.
This branched off the Secret TAS up to the first swing.
I tried a few strategies for the first walljump section, and in the end, the strategy used ended up 0.5s faster than the generally used strat.
Bounce off the Goomba, get as much height from it and a spin, and then use a bit of neutral walljump strain to get up onto the ledge with enough speed to long jump.
The long jump takes a while to come back down, so its faster to spin, but the spin doesnt land on the next ledge enough to instantly backflip, so a walljump and a quick spin is faster, getting onto the ledge with the Bee and backflipping without needing to spin up to the higher ledge.
I didnt try many ideas in the next section, but was happy with what turned out, with sideflips getting warped up by the flower platforms to be high enough to get onto the clouds without landing inbetween them.
A crouch spin knocked the wall at the start of the next section, which grabbed the lower part of the vine slightly faster than just dropping or jumping down.
Not much was tried out in the bouncy section.
I didnt realise that spinning allowed you to turn on poles faster, so theres some improvement to be had with that one pole.
In order to squeeze between the copter enemy and the wall, I had to press A on P2 before targeting the enemy so that P2 would jump up and be a bit closer to the enemy.
Then I managed to get an angled walljump off the wall (not really sure how) so that it would go up in the small gap between the enemy and wall, and push through. This saved 0.6s seconds.
Then there was the OoB. The vines move towards the camera, so if you reach them where theyre outside the 2D restriction, you can go past them. This allows you to fly all the way to the final section. However, theres invisible collision that prevents you from getting into the section, and because you are still restricted by 2D, you cant move left or right.
But P2 can grab the checkpoint as the camera pans around, so you can die and respawn in the section. You no longer have Bee suit, so you can move through the section much faster.
This saves 6 seconds over going through normally with Bee.
However, if you dont go for OoB, you can just take damage to lose Bee suit and go faster, which is the fastest strat.
Just as with Supermassive GS3, the checkpoint strat is slower than the fastest strat in real time, by 1.02s, but it is faster for in-game time, by 0.98s.
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