Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Max Schoening and Geoffrey Litt use Steve Jobs’ birthday as a jumping-off point for a wide-ranging conversation about recent product launches and what they hint at for the future of software and applied AI at work. These include Jobs' humanist approach to technology, Notion's “Lego bricks vs. horsey pieces” design philosophy, the origin story of Custom Agents, and putting a dollar value on intelligence.

0:00 Reminiscing about Steve Jobs on his birthday
21:57 The origin story and future of Custom Agents
30:42 Putting a price on intelligence
50:49 Beyond chat interfaces for AI

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Malleable Software w/ Max & Geoffrey → youtu.be/vzlcK1IDBAM

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