Uploaded July 2020 | Updated September 2026, 6 minutes ago
Part 1—Pam, a mother of four, talks about her marriage to a man who was arrested and incarcerated for sharing child porn online just 5 months after their wedding. Due to his computer skills, she had no idea of his criminal behavior, even though they shared the same computer. In fact, she never caught him, not even once during their long marriage. Find out how law enforcement arrested and convicted him. She also talks about how her children interact with a father who has been on the sex offender registry or incarcerated for many years.
Part 2—Pam talks about a wide variety of topics: finding self-respect, talking with her kids, facing anger, fear, single parenting, forgiveness, friendships, helpful (and non-helpful) pastors, and the power of denial in these situations.
She discusses the social and religious influences that made her stay after that arrest, and why she finally left. It’s important to understand the dynamic because many Christians, including women from good homes like Pam was, accidentally marry pedophiles. Pam’s husband was charming and a convincing liar.
As you watch this, ask yourself what messages kept her in the relationship so long:
1) Her beliefs about marriage. That ALL marriages are forever. (Prior to her own divorce, she viewed divorcees as people who simply didn’t have the commitment to go the distance like everyone else.)
2) Mind-games: Her husband lied and assured Pam the police had made a mistake. But his actions did not match his words. He continued to share child porn, solicit adult women online, and had an affair.
3) Spiritual abuse: He demanded Pam's forgiveness and reconciliation, saying she wasn’t a Christian if she didn’t.
4) Manipulation/Guilt: Pam’s husband said, “I forgive you, so you must forgive me.”
5) Fear-bombing messages: Pam's fears that her life would be miserable if she divorced and she couldn’t be a single parent.
6) Pastoral myths: Pam's pastor visited her husband in prison told her that her husband was a changed man and urged her to reconcile.
7) Social myths: Child porn is a victimless crime, and that pedophilia can be cured, and that this is merely a "sexual problem." (Pam knows better now).
8) Silence from her pastor on the topic of divorce: Pam assumed he did not condone divorce in these cases.
Pam Gives Advice To Pastors:
• Suggested wording for pastors counseling people in these situations. 31:15.
• Pam’s message to pastors. 33:17
For further information on pedophiles in the church: Follow experts
• Dr. Anna Salter annasalter.com
• Pastor Jimmy Hinton jimmyhinton.org/blog
No academic literature indicates that pedophilia goes away:
1) Justin Lehmiller, “Pedophiles Can’t Be ‘Cured’ and It’s Dangerous to Suggest They Can,” Vice
(1/25/19,) accessed 8/20/19, vice.com/en_us/article/mbzj5q/pedophiles-cant-be-curedand-its-dangerous-to-suggest-they-can.
2) A. Mokros and E. Habermeyer, “Regression to the Mean Mimicking Changes in Sexual Arousal to Child Stimuli in Pedophiles,” Arch Sex Behav 45, no. 7 (10/16): 1863-7, accessed 08/20/19, https://
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26585168.
3) Michael Neuman “Pedophilia: An Overview,” Science Direct (2015), accessed 7/9/2019, https://
sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/pedophilia.
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ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. For more than 20 years, she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, and emotional abuse. She helps heartbroken people find strength and courage and healing.
Her book, "The Life-Saving Divorce" is about the 40% of divorces that are for very serious reasons. She will give you optimism about your children's future (nearly 8 in 10 children turn out fine after divorce, according to top researchers); and will help you understand emotional abuse, "gaslighting," and the abuse cycle.
What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for the serious reasons: a pattern of chronic emotional abuse, infidelity, domestic violence, sexual immorality, felony behavior, neglect, substance abuse, etc.
How to Get the Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Amazon: amzn.to/3CCBsnr As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow Gretchen Baskerville:
Subscribe to Gretchen's You Tube channel: youtube.com/channel/UCRgtUNfTlYIRDt8iOK6XPKQ
Facebook: facebook.com/gretchen.baskerville
Twitter: twitter.com/GGBaskerville
Other helpful links:
Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
Divorce Story Interviews: LifeSavingDivorce.com/interviews
Email Signup: LifeSavingDivorce.com/courage
Part 1—Pam, a mother of four, talks about her marriage to a man who was arrested and incarcerated for sharing child porn online just 5 months after their wedding. Due to his computer skills, she had no idea of his criminal behavior, even though they shared the same computer. In fact, she never caught him, not even once during their long marriage. Find out how law enforcement arrested and convicted him. She also talks about how her children interact with a father who has been on the sex offender registry or incarcerated for many years.
Part 2—Pam talks about a wide variety of topics: finding self-respect, talking with her kids, facing anger, fear, single parenting, forgiveness, friendships, helpful (and non-helpful) pastors, and the power of denial in these situations.
She discusses the social and religious influences that made her stay after that arrest, and why she finally left. It’s important to understand the dynamic because many Christians, including women from good homes like Pam was, accidentally marry pedophiles. Pam’s husband was charming and a convincing liar.
As you watch this, ask yourself what messages kept her in the relationship so long:
1) Her beliefs about marriage. That ALL marriages are forever. (Prior to her own divorce, she viewed divorcees as people who simply didn’t have the commitment to go the distance like everyone else.)
2) Mind-games: Her husband lied and assured Pam the police had made a mistake. But his actions did not match his words. He continued to share child porn, solicit adult women online, and had an affair.
3) Spiritual abuse: He demanded Pam's forgiveness and reconciliation, saying she wasn’t a Christian if she didn’t.
4) Manipulation/Guilt: Pam’s husband said, “I forgive you, so you must forgive me.”
5) Fear-bombing messages: Pam's fears that her life would be miserable if she divorced and she couldn’t be a single parent.
6) Pastoral myths: Pam's pastor visited her husband in prison told her that her husband was a changed man and urged her to reconcile.
7) Social myths: Child porn is a victimless crime, and that pedophilia can be cured, and that this is merely a "sexual problem." (Pam knows better now).
8) Silence from her pastor on the topic of divorce: Pam assumed he did not condone divorce in these cases.
Pam Gives Advice To Pastors:
• Suggested wording for pastors counseling people in these situations. 31:15.
• Pam’s message to pastors. 33:17
For further information on pedophiles in the church: Follow experts
• Dr. Anna Salter annasalter.com
• Pastor Jimmy Hinton jimmyhinton.org/blog
No academic literature indicates that pedophilia goes away:
1) Justin Lehmiller, “Pedophiles Can’t Be ‘Cured’ and It’s Dangerous to Suggest They Can,” Vice
(1/25/19,) accessed 8/20/19, vice.com/en_us/article/mbzj5q/pedophiles-cant-be-curedand-its-dangerous-to-suggest-they-can.
2) A. Mokros and E. Habermeyer, “Regression to the Mean Mimicking Changes in Sexual Arousal to Child Stimuli in Pedophiles,” Arch Sex Behav 45, no. 7 (10/16): 1863-7, accessed 08/20/19, https://
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26585168.
3) Michael Neuman “Pedophilia: An Overview,” Science Direct (2015), accessed 7/9/2019, https://
sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/pedophilia.
-----
ABOUT
Gretchen Baskerville is a Christian divorce recovery leader and researcher. For more than 20 years, she has worked with Christian women and men going through difficult, life-saving divorces, listening with compassion to those who have suffered from domestic violence, betrayal, infidelity, and emotional abuse. She helps heartbroken people find strength and courage and healing.
Her book, "The Life-Saving Divorce" is about the 40% of divorces that are for very serious reasons. She will give you optimism about your children's future (nearly 8 in 10 children turn out fine after divorce, according to top researchers); and will help you understand emotional abuse, "gaslighting," and the abuse cycle.
What's a Life-Saving Divorce? A Life-Saving Divorce is a divorce for the serious reasons: a pattern of chronic emotional abuse, infidelity, domestic violence, sexual immorality, felony behavior, neglect, substance abuse, etc.
How to Get the Book, "The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships"
Amazon: amzn.to/3CCBsnr As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow Gretchen Baskerville:
Subscribe to Gretchen's You Tube channel: youtube.com/channel/UCRgtUNfTlYIRDt8iOK6XPKQ
Facebook: facebook.com/gretchen.baskerville
Twitter: twitter.com/GGBaskerville
Other helpful links:
Blog: LifeSavingDivorce.com
Divorce Story Interviews: LifeSavingDivorce.com/interviews
Email Signup: LifeSavingDivorce.com/courage
![Lundy Bancroft: Why Moms Are Losing Custody of Their Kids to Abusers, and What YOU Can Do
Interview with Lundy Bancroft, the bestselling author of “Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men” about his new novel, IN CUSTODY.
Per Lundys website, the book is: Part humor, part romance, and part suspense, Lundy Bancrofts In Custody is the story of a young journalist who sets out to discover why a mother and her daughter have gone missing and finds herself digging into the dark world of family court corruption. In Custody is available in paperback & Kindle editions: (Amazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/3AD1LtP)
Key Quote: We now have a [long] history of custody courts chronically refusing to protect children and refusing to look at the evidence. The custody courts are fond of saying, “Well, its just his word against hers” and “we didnt have any evidence that he was abusing the children,” and thats usually not true, usually thats the courts’ excuse for refusing to look at the evidence.
HIGHLIGHTS:
(For more information, go to http://www.InCustodyTheNovel.com/resources)
04:50 – Courts aren’t always doing a good job protecting kids, so sometimes the mother wants to take things into her own hands and flee with the child. IN CUSTODY tells the tale of a mother who escapes by means of an underground network. Do these exist?
06:20 – Why are mothers losing custody of their children in court? Why are courts stripping custody from mothers and granting 50/50 custody to violent men?
06:40 – History: Back in the 1970s and 1980s child support enforcement laws had an unintended consequence. Stricter collection of child support created a backlash. (It might have been better to let abusers walk away.)
07:30 – So-called “Father’s Rights” organizations sprang up. They were not interested in the legitimate concerns of fathers. They fought to throw out disclosures of violence and sexual abuse made by the mother, by the children, and by doctors and therapists. They started attracting abusers to their organizations, even recruiting them. They are mainly interested in owning and controlling their children, not in spending quality time with them (15:00).
However, Lundy also discusses mothers who abuse children (29:30).
8:48 – In the 1970s-80s, laws changed to give women the right to live without being subjected to abuse. No-fault divorce laws were designed to help abused women to get away. The pent-up demand spiked the divorce rate up for 20 years. Then it dropped.
09:26 – Even though the new laws saved lives (reduced the suicide rate of women, domestic violence rate by and against women and men, and the homicide rate of women killed by intimates — http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/divorcesaveslives) the family law courts have not wanted to change. They dismiss disclosures of domestic violence, even from children.
11:45 – Family Court is getting worse. It is enabling domestic violence. It is even forbidding mothers to protect their children.
TIPS: See more at http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/incustody
12:30 – Mothers need to organize the way that the Fathers Rights groups have. Merely passing laws isn’t enough. Mothers need to protest, picket, speak out in communities, and get on the news. They need to recruit just as abusive men have.
15:25 – Moms feel isolated. They need support and to know they are not alone. Mothers need to join organizations and get educated. See link to 11 organizations: Resources on Family Court Corruption & Reform at the bottom of this page: http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/incustody
18:00 – Know the telltale signs of “Father’s Rights” talking points.
31:44 – In the worst-case scenarios, mothers have been known to take their children and run. It’s best to do this before the divorce or temporary custody order is filed.
35:20 – There are networks that help mothers who have credible evidence to run and hide.
39:00 – Get educated on the cases where the courts betrayed mothers even when there was substantial evidence of abuse by the father. For a list go to http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/incustody.
OTHER TOPICS
21:55 – Yes, it is possible to combat Father’s Rights ideology and win in court in some cases, but in others, the mother may have no choice. She usually doesn’t have the time or money to appeal in court.
26:30 – Some custody evaluators lie and don’t even talk with the children.
29:25 – There are mothers who are abusive to children. Sometimes the husband can be the victim of a narcissistic wife.
40:00 – Pros and cons of going to criminal court.
41:40 – Most kids side with their nurturing parent. But some side with the abuser. Bancroft has 3 new blog posts on this. For links, go to http://www.lifesavingdivorce.com/incustody
Book by Gretchen Baskerville, The Life-Saving Divorce: Hope for People Leaving Destructive Relationships
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