Uploaded January 2022 | Updated September 2026, 7 hours ago
Kari Trent, the daughter of bestselling Christian marriage author Dr. John Trent, co-author of the book, THE BLESSING, ended up in an abusive marriage. Last year, she talked about it on a Focus on the Family broadcast. But you may not know the rest of the story. She filed for divorce (actually, she was granted an annulment) and 7 years later ended up remarrying.
Here she recounts the whole story. She talks about abuse, the long process of recovery, and finding a wonderful marriage partner.
TOPICS
01:00 - Kari tells her story of an abusive marriage, and how she didn’t know what abuse was. She did all the typical things: she tried harder, they went to counseling, but it didn't help.
Then Kari tells the rest of the story. How she filed with an attorney. Despite initiating it, she felt devastated. Her husband refused to acknowledge the court ruling, claiming he had changed. She waivered but wanted to give it another chance.
06:38 – How can an abuse victim NOT KNOW they are being abused?
07:00 – The Abuse Cycle keeps us stuck: Honeymoon, Tension, Incident (often some sort of explosion)
08:00 - A family member gave her a book “The Verbally Abusive Relationship,” by Patricia Evans (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/3u6K30H). But it took her more time to admit it was abuse.
09:10 – We find all kinds of reasons to stay. Maybe we doubt our memory of an incident, or we think that our love can overcome his jealousy or insecurity, or we just tell ourselves “I need to work on myself and become a better person.”
12:40 – They reconciled for several months. Her husband claimed to want to go back to church. At first, it was good, but then the toxic behavior started again.
13:30 – She kept all the problems secret from her parents. Her parents responded with balance: good boundaries.
15:45 - How to help a woman who is being abused, but stays with her abuser? Don’t pressure her or try to panic her.
19:10 – The fantastic letter Kari’s father wrote to her.
21:00 - Kari talks about her view of God’s love in the face of abuse. God opened the door and helped her get into a Christian community.
22:20 – Her father told her that abuse IS abandonment.
24:00 - Authors who do a good job on the topic of abuse and the Bible: Leslie Vernick (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/32I3RMI) and June Hunt (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/32I3RMI).
24:40 – God gave her a new life with an incredible husband and now a little boy.
25:40 – How to deal with the message that says your next marriage will fail too because you bring your own problems into the next relationship. Kari explains how she knew her new husband was emotionally healthy and safe.
32:00 – A healthy marriage as a healing experience.
33:10 - Kari talks about co-authoring the updated and expanded version of THE BLESSING, the best-seller her father wrote with Gary Smalley.
35:20 – John Trent’s blessing to his daughter, Kari: “It’s not where you have been; it’s where you are going.”
THE BLESSING
• Appropriate meaningful touch
• Spoken words
• Attach high value
• Picture a special future
• Genuine commitment
38:25– What if a woman’s parents give their future son-in-law their BLESSING, but later he ends up being an abuser or cheater? We’ve all been fooled by people at various points in our life, perhaps in our school or work.
40:00 - God heals and restores. God redeems our bad decisions. She had eloped with her first husband, but God gave her a gentle kind loving husband... and a wedding.
42:45 – God still has the blessing for you! You are not disqualified from being used by God. You may have to switch churches or friendships if people tell you you’re cursed.
43:50 - And she talks about her upcoming book. “The Merge for Marriage.” How to put your lives together in the early years of your marriage.
46:15 – Kari, what would you change in our churches about abuse? Churches need to know it’s happening in their church. Right now. About 1 in 4 highly religious couples: lifesavingdivorce.com/1in4. They need to have referrals to domestic violence experts and domestic violence shelters. The abuse is probably worse than what you’re being told. They cannot tell you if the abuser is in the same room. Another author Lundy Bancroft’s book “Why Does He Do That?” (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/34dLY8X)
52:15 – Examples of emotional abuse.
52:50 - Child abuse must be reported. CPS will investigate for themselves. It doesn’t mean someone will automatically get into trouble.
54:00 – Focus on the Family – has not added abuse to their list of valid reasons for divorce. But Kari feels that FOTF cares about safety.
God has a redemptive story available to both spouses, whether they choose to listen or not.
How to connect with Kari:
Facebook & Instagram: Kari Trent Stageberg
Coaching: karitrent.com
Her Father and Her Ministry: strongfamilies.com
Gretchen's site: lifesavingdivorce.com
Kari Trent, the daughter of bestselling Christian marriage author Dr. John Trent, co-author of the book, THE BLESSING, ended up in an abusive marriage. Last year, she talked about it on a Focus on the Family broadcast. But you may not know the rest of the story. She filed for divorce (actually, she was granted an annulment) and 7 years later ended up remarrying.
Here she recounts the whole story. She talks about abuse, the long process of recovery, and finding a wonderful marriage partner.
TOPICS
01:00 - Kari tells her story of an abusive marriage, and how she didn’t know what abuse was. She did all the typical things: she tried harder, they went to counseling, but it didn't help.
Then Kari tells the rest of the story. How she filed with an attorney. Despite initiating it, she felt devastated. Her husband refused to acknowledge the court ruling, claiming he had changed. She waivered but wanted to give it another chance.
06:38 – How can an abuse victim NOT KNOW they are being abused?
07:00 – The Abuse Cycle keeps us stuck: Honeymoon, Tension, Incident (often some sort of explosion)
08:00 - A family member gave her a book “The Verbally Abusive Relationship,” by Patricia Evans (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/3u6K30H). But it took her more time to admit it was abuse.
09:10 – We find all kinds of reasons to stay. Maybe we doubt our memory of an incident, or we think that our love can overcome his jealousy or insecurity, or we just tell ourselves “I need to work on myself and become a better person.”
12:40 – They reconciled for several months. Her husband claimed to want to go back to church. At first, it was good, but then the toxic behavior started again.
13:30 – She kept all the problems secret from her parents. Her parents responded with balance: good boundaries.
15:45 - How to help a woman who is being abused, but stays with her abuser? Don’t pressure her or try to panic her.
19:10 – The fantastic letter Kari’s father wrote to her.
21:00 - Kari talks about her view of God’s love in the face of abuse. God opened the door and helped her get into a Christian community.
22:20 – Her father told her that abuse IS abandonment.
24:00 - Authors who do a good job on the topic of abuse and the Bible: Leslie Vernick (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/32I3RMI) and June Hunt (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/32I3RMI).
24:40 – God gave her a new life with an incredible husband and now a little boy.
25:40 – How to deal with the message that says your next marriage will fail too because you bring your own problems into the next relationship. Kari explains how she knew her new husband was emotionally healthy and safe.
32:00 – A healthy marriage as a healing experience.
33:10 - Kari talks about co-authoring the updated and expanded version of THE BLESSING, the best-seller her father wrote with Gary Smalley.
35:20 – John Trent’s blessing to his daughter, Kari: “It’s not where you have been; it’s where you are going.”
THE BLESSING
• Appropriate meaningful touch
• Spoken words
• Attach high value
• Picture a special future
• Genuine commitment
38:25– What if a woman’s parents give their future son-in-law their BLESSING, but later he ends up being an abuser or cheater? We’ve all been fooled by people at various points in our life, perhaps in our school or work.
40:00 - God heals and restores. God redeems our bad decisions. She had eloped with her first husband, but God gave her a gentle kind loving husband... and a wedding.
42:45 – God still has the blessing for you! You are not disqualified from being used by God. You may have to switch churches or friendships if people tell you you’re cursed.
43:50 - And she talks about her upcoming book. “The Merge for Marriage.” How to put your lives together in the early years of your marriage.
46:15 – Kari, what would you change in our churches about abuse? Churches need to know it’s happening in their church. Right now. About 1 in 4 highly religious couples: lifesavingdivorce.com/1in4. They need to have referrals to domestic violence experts and domestic violence shelters. The abuse is probably worse than what you’re being told. They cannot tell you if the abuser is in the same room. Another author Lundy Bancroft’s book “Why Does He Do That?” (Amazon affiliate link: amzn.to/34dLY8X)
52:15 – Examples of emotional abuse.
52:50 - Child abuse must be reported. CPS will investigate for themselves. It doesn’t mean someone will automatically get into trouble.
54:00 – Focus on the Family – has not added abuse to their list of valid reasons for divorce. But Kari feels that FOTF cares about safety.
God has a redemptive story available to both spouses, whether they choose to listen or not.
How to connect with Kari:
Facebook & Instagram: Kari Trent Stageberg
Coaching: karitrent.com
Her Father and Her Ministry: strongfamilies.com
Gretchen's site: lifesavingdivorce.com










![12 Surprising Insights from the Marriage Intensive Survey | Natalie Hoffman, Flying Free Podcast
There is a better version of this video at: https://youtu.be/RR4LXRswKTg?si=RGi-iWiZmFkPR6ht
Will your marriage be fixed by an in-person, multi-day, overnight marriage intensive? Is it worth the money, time and effort? Are the claims of these marriage intensives true? 330 people tell us about their marriage intensive experience.
— 03:58 LISTEN TO THE INTRO FIRST
— 12:20 Surprise #12: Some attended because it was a wholesome marriage event, but MOST attended to fix a marriage problem.
— 15:45 Surprise #11: 7 in 10 survey respondents indicated they are now separated or divorced. Another 1 in 10 plan to separate or divorce. Natalie tells her story of going to a marriage intensive that she paid for and attended with her [now ex-] husband.
— 22:35 Surprise #10: Only 24 of the 330 survey participants indicated that they were “married and happy.” And only 4 of those said their marriage intensive was “life-changing” for them.
— 28:50 Surprise #9: Half of the respondents said they attended a marriage intensive that used manipulation tactics. The other half did not mention any type of manipulation. We discuss the 7 most frequently mentioned manipulation tactics. We discuss the 3 worst marriage intensives. #WeekendToRemember
— 36:30 Surprise #8: Roughly 7 in 10 of the people who said they felt “hopeful” on the last day of the program indicated they are divorced or separated now. Even though this survey was too small to definitively measure the effectiveness of each of the top major marriage intensives, we get a hint that many of the success claims may not be true. Further studies using representative samples and more respondents need to be conducted.
— 44:13 Surprise #7: Only 2% of people whose spouse was NOT respectful when deep intimate feelings of fear and insecurity were shared are “married and happy” now. This is why couples counseling where there is abuse is considered unethical and possibly even illegal, according to the Gottman Institute.
— 47:28 Surprise #6: About 9 in 10 respondents indicated they would NOT likely recommend the marriage intensive to others, even if they liked some of the training in basic communication skills and problem-solving techniques.
— 51:25 Surprise #5: Those attending the most expensive marriage intensives had higher divorce and/or separation rates than those who paid far less. Some intensives charge $3,000-$12,000 for top experts and licensed counselors, but they still did not fix the marriage.
— 54:05 Surprise #4: People have all kinds of motivations for attending. Some just want a weekend away without the kids or dog.
— 54:25 Surprise #3: Many people mentioned that the topic of abuse was never mentioned or described. And in some intensives, abuse perpetrated in the marriage was not allowed to be discussed. People mentioned feeling unseen, unheard, and their pain and injuries were ignored. The dangers of “vow renewal ceremonies.”
— 57:15 Surprise #2: If a spouse pretended to be respectful for a short time and then went back to their usual negative or indifferent attitudes, there was a very high correlation with divorce or separation.
— 58:30 Surprise #1: Only 4 of the “married and happy” survey respondents gave the credit to the marriage intensive for a major positive change in their marriage.
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The Bible teaches us to Run From Abusers: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/runfromabusers/
Studies that show that even though divorce is bad for kids, witnessing or experiencing abuse is up to 10 times worse: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-and-kids/
Bible verses on divorce, including passages that condone and even command divorce: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/abuse-in-bible/
Divorce as God’s Protection of Old Testament Wives: https://youtu.be/z2bAfawE-ZM?feature=shared
Divorce as God’s Protection for Women in the Bible: https://youtu.be/SJjv6eN1BDs?feature=shared
Critique of Hope Restored’s (Focus on the Family) Miracle Claims: https://youtu.be/QQlNoyLasfQ?feature=shared. Or Blog post: https://lifesavingdivorce.com/fotfevidence/
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