Uploaded May 2012 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
After an absence of several weeks, Ian Juby's unintentionally hilarious weekly show, Genesis Week is back for a special edition
In this episode Ian interviews fellow traveling creationist creation museum curator Vance Nelson who by all accounts has a much better museum than Ian's, has several books out and by and large appears to be a lot more successful all round at what he does than Ian does.
For example Vance has just come back from an expedition deep into the Amazon jungle in South America where he visited a secret location of which foreign travellers visiting the area back in the 1940s had told of their encounters with an unnamed tribe of Indians who had lived in the jungle for thousands of years and had encountered a mysterious creature that fitted the description of a dinosaur.
And if you think that that sounds like a heap of festering horse shit, you're not alone.
In the interview Vance talks about this expedition and shows us video footage of pictographs (cave paintings) which appear to depict people hunting a long necked dinosaur.
He states that the age of the cave painting is confirmed because it looks weathered and the subject matter is verified because they also drew other pictures of more expected animals. The authenticity of the pictographs is undisputed because they also drew people worshipping the sun and besides, their local guide, who also just happened to be a scientist and an expert on cave paintings said they were authentic.
As the two of them confirm each other's bias, Vance takes this finding to be a demonstration that evolution is wrong because according to him evolution states that creatures such as dinosaurs should be extinct. Ian on the other hand interprets this finding to be a demonstration that humans and dinosaurs lived together back in the Stone Age or as he puts it, the Garden of Eden.
Of course, both of them are missing the point. There are an abundance of species alive today that have remained largely unchanged since the age of the dinosaurs millions of years ago.
Among many others, crocodiles and sharks were both around during the cretaceous period when sauropod dinosaurs roamed the earth so Vance's claims don't really hold true just like his reasoning for why Indians couldn't possibly have dug up fossil dinosaur bones without modern equipment or preservation techniques.
It's interesting to note that Vance has a book out which is mentioned several times in the interview. Going by the preview on his website it looks like a coffee table book, full of nice big colourful pictures and not a lot else but at around $40 a throw, they don't sell themselves so I am guessing that the publicity won't do any harm.
Personally, I think that it's a hoax because the details are just too vague and besides, if it was real why hasn't it been published in a serious publication? Googling Vance Nelson and the word dinosaur brings back links to Christian web sites and his own but nothing in science, nature popular science or new scientist. Just pages of fundie forums until you finally find an article from the Huffington post on page 4 and that isn't even an article about Vance and his discovery.
If you want to see the fun for yourself then you can view Ian's video here:
youtube.com/watch?v=YBZ-6q-GE1I
Vance Nelson's "news report" here
youtube.com/watch?v=M4yt1WoDlYQ
The Indiana Jones style trailer for the news report here:
youtube.com/watch?v=okAujJrpnP8
Vance Nelsons website where he sells his books here:
untoldsecretsofplanetearth.com/home.html
Vance Nelson's traveling creation museum here
creationtruthministries.org
And here
albertadinosaurmuseum.org/home.html
An article from the British Centre for Science Education about Vance and his wife
bcseweb.org.uk/index.php/Main/VanceNelson
After an absence of several weeks, Ian Juby's unintentionally hilarious weekly show, Genesis Week is back for a special edition
In this episode Ian interviews fellow traveling creationist creation museum curator Vance Nelson who by all accounts has a much better museum than Ian's, has several books out and by and large appears to be a lot more successful all round at what he does than Ian does.
For example Vance has just come back from an expedition deep into the Amazon jungle in South America where he visited a secret location of which foreign travellers visiting the area back in the 1940s had told of their encounters with an unnamed tribe of Indians who had lived in the jungle for thousands of years and had encountered a mysterious creature that fitted the description of a dinosaur.
And if you think that that sounds like a heap of festering horse shit, you're not alone.
In the interview Vance talks about this expedition and shows us video footage of pictographs (cave paintings) which appear to depict people hunting a long necked dinosaur.
He states that the age of the cave painting is confirmed because it looks weathered and the subject matter is verified because they also drew other pictures of more expected animals. The authenticity of the pictographs is undisputed because they also drew people worshipping the sun and besides, their local guide, who also just happened to be a scientist and an expert on cave paintings said they were authentic.
As the two of them confirm each other's bias, Vance takes this finding to be a demonstration that evolution is wrong because according to him evolution states that creatures such as dinosaurs should be extinct. Ian on the other hand interprets this finding to be a demonstration that humans and dinosaurs lived together back in the Stone Age or as he puts it, the Garden of Eden.
Of course, both of them are missing the point. There are an abundance of species alive today that have remained largely unchanged since the age of the dinosaurs millions of years ago.
Among many others, crocodiles and sharks were both around during the cretaceous period when sauropod dinosaurs roamed the earth so Vance's claims don't really hold true just like his reasoning for why Indians couldn't possibly have dug up fossil dinosaur bones without modern equipment or preservation techniques.
It's interesting to note that Vance has a book out which is mentioned several times in the interview. Going by the preview on his website it looks like a coffee table book, full of nice big colourful pictures and not a lot else but at around $40 a throw, they don't sell themselves so I am guessing that the publicity won't do any harm.
Personally, I think that it's a hoax because the details are just too vague and besides, if it was real why hasn't it been published in a serious publication? Googling Vance Nelson and the word dinosaur brings back links to Christian web sites and his own but nothing in science, nature popular science or new scientist. Just pages of fundie forums until you finally find an article from the Huffington post on page 4 and that isn't even an article about Vance and his discovery.
If you want to see the fun for yourself then you can view Ian's video here:
youtube.com/watch?v=YBZ-6q-GE1I
Vance Nelson's "news report" here
youtube.com/watch?v=M4yt1WoDlYQ
The Indiana Jones style trailer for the news report here:
youtube.com/watch?v=okAujJrpnP8
Vance Nelsons website where he sells his books here:
untoldsecretsofplanetearth.com/home.html
Vance Nelson's traveling creation museum here
creationtruthministries.org
And here
albertadinosaurmuseum.org/home.html
An article from the British Centre for Science Education about Vance and his wife
bcseweb.org.uk/index.php/Main/VanceNelson
