Uploaded October 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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DJ Shipley and Dr. Andrew Huberman discuss how BUD/S exposes the difference between physical talent and unbreakable mindset—covering external pressure, self-selection and quitting, reframing suffering (“palace or prison”), and the disciplined perspective that carries you through cold, pain, and chaos.

DJ Shipley is a retired Tier 1 operator Navy SEAL and now a top public educator on how to build mental and physical health and reach top-level performance in any endeavor. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a tenured professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford University School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab podcast.

Watch the full episode: youtu.be/WwRc2SEo-VI?si=Gp9sP10nFdO6Gx_s
Show notes: go.hubermanlab.com/EeYgeW1

*Timestamps*
00:00 How Challenging is BUD/S?
00:29 Pressure & Expectations
01:29 Background & Preparation
02:29 Changing Standards of Selection
03:25 Mental Resilience & Determination
04:22 Surprising Outcomes & Mental Toughness
07:49 Mindset & Perspective

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