Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Book a free consultation call with Robert Sikes on breaking through your Keto or low carb plateau here: ketobodybuilding.com/call
Fitness influencers are lying to you about how to build big muscles fast. High intensity training is not the shortcut you think it is. In episode 879 of the Savage Perspective Podcast, host Robert Sikes and guest Dr. Nash Jocic break down high intensity vs high volume training for muscle growth, especially for natural lifters. They cover weekly training splits, recovery, tendons, CNS fatigue, reps and rest times, and why meat and eggs can beat high carbohydrate diets for strength, leanness, and long-term progress.
Follow Dr. Jocic on IG: instagram.com/nash_jocic
Subscribe to his YouTube Channel: youtube.com/nashjocic888/join
Get Keto Brick: ketobrick.com
Subscribe to the podcast: open.spotify.com/show/42cjJssghqD01bdWBxRYEg?si=1XYKmPXmR4eKw2O9gGCEuQ
Chapters:
0:00 - What Actually Builds Muscle (Training vs Steroids)?
0:57 - Are “Quick Fixes” Like Peptides & 10-Min Workouts a Trap?
1:50 - Who Is Dr. Nash Jocic (Golden Era Scientist Mindset)?
3:46 - What Training Principles Never Change for Natural Muscle Growth?
4:11 - Is Training Each Muscle Once Per Week Better Than Twice?
5:36 - Why Bodybuilding History Beats “Lab Science” for Results
5:49 - Did Arnold’s Chest/Biceps Come from Genetics… or Volume?
6:33 - How Many Sets per Muscle per Week Builds a “Golden Era” Physique?
7:06 - Why Should Natural Lifters Train a Muscle Only Once Per Week?
8:08 - Does Muscle Recover in 72 Hours… but Tendons Need 7 Days?
9:34 - How Does CNS Fatigue Kill Gains (and Cause Elbow/Shoulder Pain)?
10:44 - What’s the Best Hypertrophy Split for Training 4 Days per Week?
11:46 - Does Shoulders/Triceps “Ruin” Chest Day (Biomechanics Truth)?
12:41 - How Do You Train Back Without Turning It Into a Biceps Workout?
13:16 - Should You Train Quads + Hamstrings in One Day?
13:33 - What Does a Real High-Volume Leg Day Look Like (50 Minutes)?
14:09 - How Long Should You Rest Between Sets for Hypertrophy?
15:36 - Why “Short Rest = Chain Effect” Builds More Muscle
16:52 - What Are the Best Rest Times (Upper vs Lower Body)?
18:01 - Why Don’t People Want the Modern Mass-Monster Look Anymore?
19:03 - Are You Training for Results… or Just Hanging Out at the Gym?
20:44 - Are Supersets Worth It for Muscle Growth (Or Just Junk Volume)?
21:05 - What Is Time Under Tension (And Why Legs Need Longer Sets)?
23:14 - What Rep Range Builds Muscle Best (Upper vs Lower Body)?
23:33 - How Often Should You Train Calves (and Why First, Not Last)?
24:46 - Why Calves Need Heavy Weight + High Reps (Short ROM Problem)
27:04 - Is “Bad Genetics” Just the Cheapest Excuse in Fitness?
28:25 - How Do You Build Proportion (No Weak Muscle Groups)?
30:55 - Should Steroid Users Train Differently (and Why Abuse Is Common)?
32:54 - Is “Heavy Duty” (Mike Mentzer) the Biggest Fitness Scam?
34:11 - Did Mike Mentzer Even Train Heavy Duty (1978 Truth)?
35:15 - Can One Set per Exercise Ever Work for Naturals?
37:39 - Did Dorian Yates Really Do One Set (Or 25 Sets)?
39:40 - Did Failure Training Destroy Dorian’s Body (Hip, Biceps, Shoulders)?
42:28 - Why Robert Sikes Doesn’t Run Ads (KetoBodybuilding Resource)
44:11 - How Hard Should You Train for Longevity (RIR vs Failure)?
45:42 - What Are “Productive Reps” (and Why Failure Reduces Volume)?
47:36 - What’s the Best Bodybuilding Nutrition Strategy (Big Picture)?
48:10 - What Did Humans Eat for 400,000 Years (Evolution Argument)?
50:02 - Are Carbs “Alien” to Humans (and Linked to Chronic Disease)?
51:51 - What Did Golden Era Bodybuilders Eat (Steak & Eggs Proof)?
53:16 - Why 70% Carbs Made Him Fat (Old-School Mistake)
56:40 - Do You Need Carbs for Glycogen (Gluconeogenesis Explained)?
58:03 - Do You Need Vegetables/Fruit to Thrive (or Just Meat/Eggs)?
58:57 - Why Chicken Legs Beat Chicken Breast (Collagen + Fat)
1:00:01 - Is Eating 2–3 Meals Better Than 6 Meals for Protein Absorption?
1:01:18 - Robert’s 11-Year No-Carb Transformation (Performance Still Up)
1:03:05 - Should You Eat When Hungry (Ghrelin/Leptin + Digestion “Pipe”)?
1:04:54 - The Vitamin Placebo Story (and Supplement Industry Reality)
1:06:28 - Why Eggs Are Nature’s Perfect Supplement
1:07:19 - What Did Dr. Nash Study (Philosophy, Ethics, Aesthetics)?
1:09:03 - Why Bodybuilding Is the Ultimate “Human Optimization” Project
1:10:20 - How Dr. Nash Built His YouTube (and Why It Took Off)
1:11:35 - Why Serving Others Requires a Strong Body (Robert’s Closing)
1:12:44 - Where to Find Dr. Nash Jocic (YouTube + Coaching)
1:13:24 - Final Words: “Train Smart, Eat Right, Stay Natural”
Book a free consultation call with Robert Sikes on breaking through your Keto or low carb plateau here: ketobodybuilding.com/call
Fitness influencers are lying to you about how to build big muscles fast. High intensity training is not the shortcut you think it is. In episode 879 of the Savage Perspective Podcast, host Robert Sikes and guest Dr. Nash Jocic break down high intensity vs high volume training for muscle growth, especially for natural lifters. They cover weekly training splits, recovery, tendons, CNS fatigue, reps and rest times, and why meat and eggs can beat high carbohydrate diets for strength, leanness, and long-term progress.
Follow Dr. Jocic on IG: instagram.com/nash_jocic
Subscribe to his YouTube Channel: youtube.com/nashjocic888/join
Get Keto Brick: ketobrick.com
Subscribe to the podcast: open.spotify.com/show/42cjJssghqD01bdWBxRYEg?si=1XYKmPXmR4eKw2O9gGCEuQ
Chapters:
0:00 - What Actually Builds Muscle (Training vs Steroids)?
0:57 - Are “Quick Fixes” Like Peptides & 10-Min Workouts a Trap?
1:50 - Who Is Dr. Nash Jocic (Golden Era Scientist Mindset)?
3:46 - What Training Principles Never Change for Natural Muscle Growth?
4:11 - Is Training Each Muscle Once Per Week Better Than Twice?
5:36 - Why Bodybuilding History Beats “Lab Science” for Results
5:49 - Did Arnold’s Chest/Biceps Come from Genetics… or Volume?
6:33 - How Many Sets per Muscle per Week Builds a “Golden Era” Physique?
7:06 - Why Should Natural Lifters Train a Muscle Only Once Per Week?
8:08 - Does Muscle Recover in 72 Hours… but Tendons Need 7 Days?
9:34 - How Does CNS Fatigue Kill Gains (and Cause Elbow/Shoulder Pain)?
10:44 - What’s the Best Hypertrophy Split for Training 4 Days per Week?
11:46 - Does Shoulders/Triceps “Ruin” Chest Day (Biomechanics Truth)?
12:41 - How Do You Train Back Without Turning It Into a Biceps Workout?
13:16 - Should You Train Quads + Hamstrings in One Day?
13:33 - What Does a Real High-Volume Leg Day Look Like (50 Minutes)?
14:09 - How Long Should You Rest Between Sets for Hypertrophy?
15:36 - Why “Short Rest = Chain Effect” Builds More Muscle
16:52 - What Are the Best Rest Times (Upper vs Lower Body)?
18:01 - Why Don’t People Want the Modern Mass-Monster Look Anymore?
19:03 - Are You Training for Results… or Just Hanging Out at the Gym?
20:44 - Are Supersets Worth It for Muscle Growth (Or Just Junk Volume)?
21:05 - What Is Time Under Tension (And Why Legs Need Longer Sets)?
23:14 - What Rep Range Builds Muscle Best (Upper vs Lower Body)?
23:33 - How Often Should You Train Calves (and Why First, Not Last)?
24:46 - Why Calves Need Heavy Weight + High Reps (Short ROM Problem)
27:04 - Is “Bad Genetics” Just the Cheapest Excuse in Fitness?
28:25 - How Do You Build Proportion (No Weak Muscle Groups)?
30:55 - Should Steroid Users Train Differently (and Why Abuse Is Common)?
32:54 - Is “Heavy Duty” (Mike Mentzer) the Biggest Fitness Scam?
34:11 - Did Mike Mentzer Even Train Heavy Duty (1978 Truth)?
35:15 - Can One Set per Exercise Ever Work for Naturals?
37:39 - Did Dorian Yates Really Do One Set (Or 25 Sets)?
39:40 - Did Failure Training Destroy Dorian’s Body (Hip, Biceps, Shoulders)?
42:28 - Why Robert Sikes Doesn’t Run Ads (KetoBodybuilding Resource)
44:11 - How Hard Should You Train for Longevity (RIR vs Failure)?
45:42 - What Are “Productive Reps” (and Why Failure Reduces Volume)?
47:36 - What’s the Best Bodybuilding Nutrition Strategy (Big Picture)?
48:10 - What Did Humans Eat for 400,000 Years (Evolution Argument)?
50:02 - Are Carbs “Alien” to Humans (and Linked to Chronic Disease)?
51:51 - What Did Golden Era Bodybuilders Eat (Steak & Eggs Proof)?
53:16 - Why 70% Carbs Made Him Fat (Old-School Mistake)
56:40 - Do You Need Carbs for Glycogen (Gluconeogenesis Explained)?
58:03 - Do You Need Vegetables/Fruit to Thrive (or Just Meat/Eggs)?
58:57 - Why Chicken Legs Beat Chicken Breast (Collagen + Fat)
1:00:01 - Is Eating 2–3 Meals Better Than 6 Meals for Protein Absorption?
1:01:18 - Robert’s 11-Year No-Carb Transformation (Performance Still Up)
1:03:05 - Should You Eat When Hungry (Ghrelin/Leptin + Digestion “Pipe”)?
1:04:54 - The Vitamin Placebo Story (and Supplement Industry Reality)
1:06:28 - Why Eggs Are Nature’s Perfect Supplement
1:07:19 - What Did Dr. Nash Study (Philosophy, Ethics, Aesthetics)?
1:09:03 - Why Bodybuilding Is the Ultimate “Human Optimization” Project
1:10:20 - How Dr. Nash Built His YouTube (and Why It Took Off)
1:11:35 - Why Serving Others Requires a Strong Body (Robert’s Closing)
1:12:44 - Where to Find Dr. Nash Jocic (YouTube + Coaching)
1:13:24 - Final Words: “Train Smart, Eat Right, Stay Natural”
