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A dynamic discussion on the role of gardens and vegetation as they relate to Laertes in the Odyssey. Participants explored the significance and symbolism of the garden ranging from questions about the garden as a possible burial site for Laertes' wife Antikleia, to the parallels between growing shoots and the young heroes in a hero cult. Other themes included the status of the garden as a possible sacred precinct, its relationship to the larger community in the island of Ithaca, and connection to young Odysseus in the orchards.
Participants also examined the unique character of Pausanias and questions surrounding his spiritual and emotional transformation. Professor Nagy noted how Pausanias is a quintessential 2nd-century-CE Greek, someone with a very intellectual, very inquiring mind who takes with total seriousness the cults of gods and heroes. Finally, the conversation explored the possibility of inscriptions at the site of Pausanias, and the nature of the initiation experience.
Recorded in Fall 2020 during v14 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 14 and 15, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
A dynamic discussion on the role of gardens and vegetation as they relate to Laertes in the Odyssey. Participants explored the significance and symbolism of the garden ranging from questions about the garden as a possible burial site for Laertes' wife Antikleia, to the parallels between growing shoots and the young heroes in a hero cult. Other themes included the status of the garden as a possible sacred precinct, its relationship to the larger community in the island of Ithaca, and connection to young Odysseus in the orchards.
Participants also examined the unique character of Pausanias and questions surrounding his spiritual and emotional transformation. Professor Nagy noted how Pausanias is a quintessential 2nd-century-CE Greek, someone with a very intellectual, very inquiring mind who takes with total seriousness the cults of gods and heroes. Finally, the conversation explored the possibility of inscriptions at the site of Pausanias, and the nature of the initiation experience.
Recorded in Fall 2020 during v14 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 14 and 15, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.




![HeroesX v06 Office Hours 02 | Achilles and the Poetics of Lament
Discussion topics include comments and questions related to Hours 3 and 4 of the Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours. Ancient Greek heroes who are morally bad considered as anti-heroes in modern terms. Their larger-than-life traits; Achilles ‘upstaging’ the other heroes in the Iliad; how other epics may have had other heroes as the main focus. Relationships and gifts as honor and reward—material compensation according to status in a hierarchical system. Achilles as the major player in acquiring plunder and captives for the community of warriors. Honor [tīmē] and worth. The status of Chryseis and Briseis. The lack of support for Achilles by the other warriors. The lament of Andromache. The image labeled as Sappho and Alcaeus attributed to the Brygos Painter. A figure in ¾ view: which way is she turning? Hector and Andromache and the song of love and lament.
Recorded in Fall 2016 during v6 of of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hour 3.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and Claudia Filos
Mentioned in this video:
Casey Dué: The Captive Woman’s Lament in Greek Tragedy
https://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:hul.ebook:CHS_Due.The_Captive_Womans_Lament_in_Greek_Tragedy.2006
Image: Red-figured kalathos attributed to the Brygos Painter: obverse, Sappho and Alcaeus, each with barbiton and plectrum, ca. 470 BC. Munich, Antikensammlungen 2416, line drawing by Valerie Woelfel
Ongoing articles with commentary on the Iliad (and since the recording, the Odyssey) originally at Classical Inquiries, now available and ongoing at Classical Continuum:
https://continuum.fas.harvard.edu/a-sampling-of-comments-on-the-homeric-iliad-and-odyssey-restarted-2022/ HeroesX v06 Office Hours 02 | Achilles and the Poetics of Lament](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IgDfXvLFA2Q/mqdefault.jpg)





