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Discussion topics include the various ways in which the reader— and listener—can come to better know Achilles. Participants point out how a reading of Sappho can elucidate one's understanding of Achilles, and quite possibly, of the deities in the Iliad as well. Discussion also turns to the close relationship between the character of Patroklos and Achilles—close in an emotional, but also, physical sense. Professor Gregory Nagy observes how in Patroklos one might find a softer, kinder Achilles, and the significance of Patroklos' donning of Achilles' armor. The conversation thereupon turns to themes of homo-eroticism (versus homosexuality), literal closeness, and intimacy. While sexuality is certainly one way of expressing intimacy, the Iliad expresses something even more intimate by posing the question: Am I willing to give up my life for my fellow warrior? Finally, the discussion also turns to the role of Briseis as a mediator and potential advocate between Patroklos and Achilles.
Recorded in Fall 2020 during v14 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 5 and 6, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
Discussion topics include the various ways in which the reader— and listener—can come to better know Achilles. Participants point out how a reading of Sappho can elucidate one's understanding of Achilles, and quite possibly, of the deities in the Iliad as well. Discussion also turns to the close relationship between the character of Patroklos and Achilles—close in an emotional, but also, physical sense. Professor Gregory Nagy observes how in Patroklos one might find a softer, kinder Achilles, and the significance of Patroklos' donning of Achilles' armor. The conversation thereupon turns to themes of homo-eroticism (versus homosexuality), literal closeness, and intimacy. While sexuality is certainly one way of expressing intimacy, the Iliad expresses something even more intimate by posing the question: Am I willing to give up my life for my fellow warrior? Finally, the discussion also turns to the role of Briseis as a mediator and potential advocate between Patroklos and Achilles.
Recorded in Fall 2020 during v14 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 5 and 6, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
