HeroesX v06 Office Hours 02 | Achilles and the Poetics of Lament @KosmosSociety2024
HeroesX v06 Office Hours 02 | Achilles and the Poetics of Lament  @KosmosSociety2024
Uploaded August 2025 | Updated September 2026, 13 hours ago
Discussion topics include comments and questions related to Hours 3 and 4 of the Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours. Ancient Greek heroes who are morally bad considered as anti-heroes in modern terms. Their larger-than-life traits; Achilles ‘upstaging’ the other heroes in the Iliad; how other epics may have had other heroes as the main focus. Relationships and gifts as honor and reward—material compensation according to status in a hierarchical system. Achilles as the major player in acquiring plunder and captives for the community of warriors. Honor [tīmē] and worth. The status of Chryseis and Briseis. The lack of support for Achilles by the other warriors. The lament of Andromache. The image labeled as Sappho and Alcaeus attributed to the Brygos Painter. A figure in ¾ view: which way is she turning? Hector and Andromache and the song of love and lament.
Recorded in Fall 2016 during v6 of of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hour 3.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and Claudia Filos
Mentioned in this video:
Casey Dué: The Captive Woman’s Lament in Greek Tragedy
https://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:hul.ebook:CHS_Due.The_Captive_Womans_Lament_in_Greek_Tragedy.2006
Image: Red-figured kalathos attributed to the Brygos Painter: obverse, Sappho and Alcaeus, each with barbiton and plectrum, ca. 470 BC. Munich, Antikensammlungen 2416, line drawing by Valerie Woelfel
Ongoing articles with commentary on the Iliad (and since the recording, the Odyssey) originally at Classical Inquiries, now available and ongoing at Classical Continuum:
https://continuum.fas.harvard.edu/a-sampling-of-comments-on-the-homeric-iliad-and-odyssey-restarted-2022/
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