Uploaded March 2023 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
In this episode, Stella & Sasha talk with Joe Burgo & Alasdair Gunn about Genspect’s new direction and the upcoming 1st ever live event. As you will hear them discuss, the Genspect Conference, themed “The Bigger Picture” will bring together experts from many fields holding a myriad of perspectives: eminent scientists, researchers, lawyers, doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, psychotherapists, sociologists, educators, feminists, and some well-known detransitioners.
Guest, Joe Burgo, is a clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst who's been in practice for almost 40 years. He's particularly interested in the concept of narcissism and shame. He's also a really big part of the BeyondTrans project through Genspect, and the author of several books, including _The Narcissist You Know: Defending Yourself Against Extreme Narcissists in an All-About-Me Age._
Guest, Alasdair Gunn, was working in academia when he became interested in gender issues. After coming into contact with a group of parents of trans-identified boys, he wrote a series of Quillette articles on the topic under the pseudonym Angus Fox. As a gay man who tackled body dysmorphia in adolescence, Alasdair brings a unique understanding of issues related to teenage male development. His work in gender has focused mostly on design, marketing, research, and communications in support of Genspect. Recently diagnosed with a terminal illness, Alasdair has stepped back from day-to-day work and is keen to highlight the ways in which gender healthcare falls short of the normal standards of excellence we've come to expect from the medical industry.
Stella, Sasha, Joe, and Alasdair explain how the Genspect conference is intentionally being conducted during the same week as, and just down the street from, the WPATH/EPATH conference. The goal is to provide attendees to both conferences exposure to human stories beyond the medical context of transition and challenge the evidence-base for gender medicine.
There’s so much enthusiasm about the speakers lined up to contribute to the event’s agenda. Together, Joe, Alasdair, Sasha & Stella explore the roster of presenters and reflect that many of them are previous guests of _Gender: A Wider Lens_ Podcast. They also announce plans for the first-ever Wider Lens live-stream event scheduled to take place from inside the conference.
With so much important and valuable information relevant to so many aspects of gender transition (not just the medical component), the Genspect Conference is setting the stage for a really pivotal moment in time in pursuit of capturing gender from a wider lens, aka ‘The Bigger Picture.’ This conversation is a charming preview of what attendees can expect from The Bigger Picture event, scheduled for late April.
Links:
More about Joe Burgo:
josephburgo.com
Alasdair’s Substack:
angusfox.substack.com
Attend/Stream Genspect Conference: The Bigger Picture
genspect.org/events
Beyond WPATH Document (add your signature)
beyondwpath.org
Eliza Mondegreen on WPATH:
elizamondegreen.substack.com/p/so-i-went-to-wpath
Cynical Therapies:
criticaltherapyantidote.org/new-book-2
What your Teen is Trying to Tell You - Stella O’Malley:
swiftpress.com/book/what-your-teen-is-trying-to-tell-you
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting are compiled in this playlist:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vuWE4sNG_fi5nnz-d1xQEBi
Please visit widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or join our listener community.
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
rethinkime.org
genspect.org
In this episode, Stella & Sasha talk with Joe Burgo & Alasdair Gunn about Genspect’s new direction and the upcoming 1st ever live event. As you will hear them discuss, the Genspect Conference, themed “The Bigger Picture” will bring together experts from many fields holding a myriad of perspectives: eminent scientists, researchers, lawyers, doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, psychotherapists, sociologists, educators, feminists, and some well-known detransitioners.
Guest, Joe Burgo, is a clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst who's been in practice for almost 40 years. He's particularly interested in the concept of narcissism and shame. He's also a really big part of the BeyondTrans project through Genspect, and the author of several books, including _The Narcissist You Know: Defending Yourself Against Extreme Narcissists in an All-About-Me Age._
Guest, Alasdair Gunn, was working in academia when he became interested in gender issues. After coming into contact with a group of parents of trans-identified boys, he wrote a series of Quillette articles on the topic under the pseudonym Angus Fox. As a gay man who tackled body dysmorphia in adolescence, Alasdair brings a unique understanding of issues related to teenage male development. His work in gender has focused mostly on design, marketing, research, and communications in support of Genspect. Recently diagnosed with a terminal illness, Alasdair has stepped back from day-to-day work and is keen to highlight the ways in which gender healthcare falls short of the normal standards of excellence we've come to expect from the medical industry.
Stella, Sasha, Joe, and Alasdair explain how the Genspect conference is intentionally being conducted during the same week as, and just down the street from, the WPATH/EPATH conference. The goal is to provide attendees to both conferences exposure to human stories beyond the medical context of transition and challenge the evidence-base for gender medicine.
There’s so much enthusiasm about the speakers lined up to contribute to the event’s agenda. Together, Joe, Alasdair, Sasha & Stella explore the roster of presenters and reflect that many of them are previous guests of _Gender: A Wider Lens_ Podcast. They also announce plans for the first-ever Wider Lens live-stream event scheduled to take place from inside the conference.
With so much important and valuable information relevant to so many aspects of gender transition (not just the medical component), the Genspect Conference is setting the stage for a really pivotal moment in time in pursuit of capturing gender from a wider lens, aka ‘The Bigger Picture.’ This conversation is a charming preview of what attendees can expect from The Bigger Picture event, scheduled for late April.
Links:
More about Joe Burgo:
josephburgo.com
Alasdair’s Substack:
angusfox.substack.com
Attend/Stream Genspect Conference: The Bigger Picture
genspect.org/events
Beyond WPATH Document (add your signature)
beyondwpath.org
Eliza Mondegreen on WPATH:
elizamondegreen.substack.com/p/so-i-went-to-wpath
Cynical Therapies:
criticaltherapyantidote.org/new-book-2
What your Teen is Trying to Tell You - Stella O’Malley:
swiftpress.com/book/what-your-teen-is-trying-to-tell-you
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting are compiled in this playlist:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vuWE4sNG_fi5nnz-d1xQEBi
Please visit widerlenspod.com to explore more content, access additional resources, or join our listener community.
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
rethinkime.org
genspect.org
