Uploaded August 2024 | Updated September 2026, 3 days ago
Former big brand marketing powerhouse and national gymnastics champion, Jennifer Sey, joins Sasha and Stella to dissect trans-themed ads, corporate HR's influence, and the impacts of the adjustments to Title IX. This is a bold conversation about the evolution of corporate messaging, the rise of woke capitalism, and the growing influence of HR and DEI initiatives in shaping corporate culture.
Whether you’re in marketing, leadership, athletics or simply interested in the intersection of business and social change, this conversation will challenge your perspectives and provide valuable insights into the profound shifts within corporate America, the advertising world, and female sports.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-178
**Correction: In this episode Sasha, Stella and Jennifer discuss an ad that initially appeared to be a Calvin Klein ad. This was actually an ad produced by a company called "Both& Apparel" as an "homage to Calvin Klein." We apologize for the error. Calvin Klein has created controversial ads with trans themes, the one we showed in the episode just wasn't one of them.
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@JenniferSey on X - https://x.com/JenniferSey
Sey Everything, Jennifer’s Substack Newsletter - jennifersey.substack.com
XX-XY Athletics - xx-xyathletics.com
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We're honored to have had the pleasure of hosting many of the experts lined up to present at Genspect's upcoming Bigger Picture Conference in Lisbon, Portugal.
With a focus on "Reframing the Future," Genspect is dedicated to shifting the conversation from identifying problems to exploring solutions. Presentations, panel discussions, debates, and a live-stream interview ensure that all sides of this complex issue are addressed in a compelling manner.
Reserve your tickets today to save your spot for a powerfully engaging event, challenging the evidence base for gender medicine and addressing the widespread damage of gender identity ideology.
We hope to see you there! (Livestream tickets are also available.)
genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-lisbon
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Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at whenkidssaytheyretrans.com
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For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:
Sasha Ayad: sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching
@SashaLPC
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@stellaomalleypsychotherapist
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To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
Therapy First at therapyfirst.org
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Former big brand marketing powerhouse and national gymnastics champion, Jennifer Sey, joins Sasha and Stella to dissect trans-themed ads, corporate HR's influence, and the impacts of the adjustments to Title IX. This is a bold conversation about the evolution of corporate messaging, the rise of woke capitalism, and the growing influence of HR and DEI initiatives in shaping corporate culture.
Whether you’re in marketing, leadership, athletics or simply interested in the intersection of business and social change, this conversation will challenge your perspectives and provide valuable insights into the profound shifts within corporate America, the advertising world, and female sports.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-178
**Correction: In this episode Sasha, Stella and Jennifer discuss an ad that initially appeared to be a Calvin Klein ad. This was actually an ad produced by a company called "Both& Apparel" as an "homage to Calvin Klein." We apologize for the error. Calvin Klein has created controversial ads with trans themes, the one we showed in the episode just wasn't one of them.
- - -
@JenniferSey on X - https://x.com/JenniferSey
Sey Everything, Jennifer’s Substack Newsletter - jennifersey.substack.com
XX-XY Athletics - xx-xyathletics.com
- - -
We're honored to have had the pleasure of hosting many of the experts lined up to present at Genspect's upcoming Bigger Picture Conference in Lisbon, Portugal.
With a focus on "Reframing the Future," Genspect is dedicated to shifting the conversation from identifying problems to exploring solutions. Presentations, panel discussions, debates, and a live-stream interview ensure that all sides of this complex issue are addressed in a compelling manner.
Reserve your tickets today to save your spot for a powerfully engaging event, challenging the evidence base for gender medicine and addressing the widespread damage of gender identity ideology.
We hope to see you there! (Livestream tickets are also available.)
genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-lisbon
- - -
Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at whenkidssaytheyretrans.com
Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at widerlenspod.com/
Support the Show at widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show
Join this channel to get access to additional bonus content:
youtube.com/channel/UCP62aWWtlZV1oVnbMhTRBcg/join
- - -
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:
Sasha Ayad: sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching
@SashaLPC
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
@stellaomalleypsychotherapist
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To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
Therapy First at therapyfirst.org
Genspect at genspect.org
