Uploaded February 2024 | Updated September 2026, 9 hours ago
Join Sasha and Stella in welcoming Leor Sapir back to the show. In addition to hearing his analysis of the recent New York Times piece by Pamela Paul on youth gender medicine and detransition, listen as they explore comparisons between gender medicine and consumer-driven cosmetic practices, bans on gender-affirming care in the United States, the fostering of narcissism, and parallels with the recovered memory craze from the 1990s.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-150
Manhattan Institute - Leor Sapir
https://manhattan.institute/person/leor-sapir?top=false&limit=10&page-number=7&people%5B%5D=46760&dates=
Leor Sapir on X(Twitter) @LeorSapir
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If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting include:
Episode 52 - Gender Dysphoria & Detransition Research: A Conversation W/ Dr. Lisa Littman
youtu.be/-_FEH0bcp5Y?si=lSkI5aKtl2kNMI0z
Episode 88 — Gender: Philosophy, Institutions, and Policy w/ Leor Sapir
youtu.be/emB9V-jyySk
Episode 111 — Affirmation Therapy: Necessary, But Not Sufficient
youtu.be/WxRJQ_FI70c?feature=shared
Episode 112 — Jamie Reed: “Every Ethical Line I Drew Was Walked On… We Are Hurting People”
youtu.be/QafpwKrz-lw
Episode 128 - As Weird as a Chicken Crying: AAP Statement on Pediatric Gender Transition with Dr. Julia Mason
youtu.be/M4X_ZpnYdC8
The Dutch Studies Playlist
We have done a number episodes about the "Dutch Protocol" which precipitated the surge in youth gender transition. There are many things about the Dutch research that have been misinterpreted and misapplied in various medical settings. Here are all the episodes we've done so far where we dig deeper into the studies that started it all.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vudCwfy0R2Rvg_SH2QxBJTu
Join Sasha and Stella in welcoming Leor Sapir back to the show. In addition to hearing his analysis of the recent New York Times piece by Pamela Paul on youth gender medicine and detransition, listen as they explore comparisons between gender medicine and consumer-driven cosmetic practices, bans on gender-affirming care in the United States, the fostering of narcissism, and parallels with the recovered memory craze from the 1990s.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-150
Manhattan Institute - Leor Sapir
https://manhattan.institute/person/leor-sapir?top=false&limit=10&page-number=7&people%5B%5D=46760&dates=
Leor Sapir on X(Twitter) @LeorSapir
Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents
whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/
Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content
widerlenspod.com/
Support the Show
widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:
Sasha Ayad: sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
Therapy First: therapyfirst.org (formerly GETA)
Genspect: genspect.org
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting include:
Episode 52 - Gender Dysphoria & Detransition Research: A Conversation W/ Dr. Lisa Littman
youtu.be/-_FEH0bcp5Y?si=lSkI5aKtl2kNMI0z
Episode 88 — Gender: Philosophy, Institutions, and Policy w/ Leor Sapir
youtu.be/emB9V-jyySk
Episode 111 — Affirmation Therapy: Necessary, But Not Sufficient
youtu.be/WxRJQ_FI70c?feature=shared
Episode 112 — Jamie Reed: “Every Ethical Line I Drew Was Walked On… We Are Hurting People”
youtu.be/QafpwKrz-lw
Episode 128 - As Weird as a Chicken Crying: AAP Statement on Pediatric Gender Transition with Dr. Julia Mason
youtu.be/M4X_ZpnYdC8
The Dutch Studies Playlist
We have done a number episodes about the "Dutch Protocol" which precipitated the surge in youth gender transition. There are many things about the Dutch research that have been misinterpreted and misapplied in various medical settings. Here are all the episodes we've done so far where we dig deeper into the studies that started it all.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vudCwfy0R2Rvg_SH2QxBJTu










