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Sasha and Stella welcome Mia Hughes to the show for a chilling conversation covering WPATH's evolution from a medical organization to an activist-driven group, societal implications of medical scandals across history, and the delicate distinctions within individual experiences of gender dysphoria. Yet another conversation to add to the collection uncovering flaws and biases within pediatric gender medicine and the need for evidence-based approaches.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-156
Mia on X(Twitter) @_CryMiaRiver - twitter.com/_crymiariver
WPATH Files - environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files
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Sasha and Stella welcome Mia Hughes to the show for a chilling conversation covering WPATH's evolution from a medical organization to an activist-driven group, societal implications of medical scandals across history, and the delicate distinctions within individual experiences of gender dysphoria. Yet another conversation to add to the collection uncovering flaws and biases within pediatric gender medicine and the need for evidence-based approaches.
For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at widerlenspod.com/p/episode-156
Mia on X(Twitter) @_CryMiaRiver - twitter.com/_crymiariver
WPATH Files - environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files
Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/
Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at widerlenspod.com/
Support the Show at widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show
Join this channel to get access to additional bonus content:
youtube.com/channel/UCP62aWWtlZV1oVnbMhTRBcg/join
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:
Sasha Ayad: sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
Therapy First at therapyfirst.org (formerly GETA)
Genspect at genspect.org
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting include:
Episode 6 — Gender Intervention: Treatment or Experiments?
youtu.be/feJ3GRb8viE
Episode 81 - An Unlikely Court Case w/ Maya Forstater
youtu.be/ocH1VAc3B68
Episode 88 — Gender: Philosophy, Institutions, and Policy w/ Leor Sapir
youtu.be/emB9V-jyySk
Episode 94 — WPATH’s Bizarre 8th Standards of Care
youtu.be/aMrCTlp2-Io
Episode 101 - Michael Biggs on Puberty Blockers: From Curiosity to Exposé youtu.be/MrvbIXI4psc
Episode 102 — Dutch Journalists: Words Matter…The Media’s Influence to Share or to Silence
youtu.be/gFDtTP35o7E
Episode 116 — Identity Politics vs. The Pursuit of Knowledge with Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/dHqDGVRzoGk
Follow-Up Episode: 116 Part II - Retraction w/ Dr. Michael Bailey
youtu.be/0v8Tw93s2T0?feature=shared
Episode 118 - Prioritizing Expensive & Invasive Interventions: American Healthcare w/ Zhenya Abbruzzese
youtu.be/YhLA02Dtupc?feature=shared
Episode 150 - The Consumerism of Gender-Affirming Care with Leor Sapir
youtu.be/i1_fjn90hKo?feature=shared
Pioneers Series Playlist
Gender: A Wider Lens episodes featuring conversations with key figures in the history of gender distress, gender medicine, and gender transition.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLngVCeAoK6vuo4Bc1fvV-I50Vuor5dz7h&feature=shared
