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From the Radiolab podcast: The origin, rise, and uncertain future of an unraveling belief.
What makes a person LGBTQIA+? For a long time, the idea that people "Born This Way" spurred movements and political change. So today, we delve into the story of this idea. An idea that some people need, others reject, and one that will, ultimately, be hard to let go of.
#lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtqia #genetics
Episode Segments:
00:00 The Birth of Born This Way
19:25 Born This Way seeps into the culture
55:38 The Unravelling of Born This Way
Videos:
Lisa Diamond - Born This Way, TEDx (zpr.io/WJedDGLVkTNF)
Books:
Joanna Wuest - Born This Way: Science, Citizenship, and Inequality in the American LGBTQ+ Movement (zpr.io/rYPwyhNHtgXe)
Dean Hamer - The Science of Desire: The Search for the Gay Gene and the Biology of Behavior (zpr.io/3FuKZyu2bgwE)
Lisa Diamond - Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women’s Desire and Love (zpr.io/cj3ZSLC2xccJ)
Edward Stein - The Mismeasure of Desire: The Science, Theory, and Ethics of Sexual Orientation (zpr.io/UQfdNtyE3RtQ)
Chandler Burr - A Separate Creation: The Search for the Biological Origins of Sexual Orientation (zpr.io/GKUDhyfNacUf)
Jacques Balthazart - The Biology of Homosexuality (zpr.io/um6XMmpfkmQS)
Anne Fausto-Sterling - Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality (zpr.io/rWNrTYLeLZ3s)
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From the Radiolab podcast: The origin, rise, and uncertain future of an unraveling belief.
What makes a person LGBTQIA+? For a long time, the idea that people "Born This Way" spurred movements and political change. So today, we delve into the story of this idea. An idea that some people need, others reject, and one that will, ultimately, be hard to let go of.
#lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtqia #genetics
Episode Segments:
00:00 The Birth of Born This Way
19:25 Born This Way seeps into the culture
55:38 The Unravelling of Born This Way
Videos:
Lisa Diamond - Born This Way, TEDx (zpr.io/WJedDGLVkTNF)
Books:
Joanna Wuest - Born This Way: Science, Citizenship, and Inequality in the American LGBTQ+ Movement (zpr.io/rYPwyhNHtgXe)
Dean Hamer - The Science of Desire: The Search for the Gay Gene and the Biology of Behavior (zpr.io/3FuKZyu2bgwE)
Lisa Diamond - Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women’s Desire and Love (zpr.io/cj3ZSLC2xccJ)
Edward Stein - The Mismeasure of Desire: The Science, Theory, and Ethics of Sexual Orientation (zpr.io/UQfdNtyE3RtQ)
Chandler Burr - A Separate Creation: The Search for the Biological Origins of Sexual Orientation (zpr.io/GKUDhyfNacUf)
Jacques Balthazart - The Biology of Homosexuality (zpr.io/um6XMmpfkmQS)
Anne Fausto-Sterling - Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality (zpr.io/rWNrTYLeLZ3s)
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Guests in this episode include: Dean Hamer, Joanna Wuest
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![Border Trilogy Part 1: Hole in the Fence | Radiolab Podcast
From the Radiolab podcast: Part One of our Border Trilogy. An anthropologist finds something macabre in the desert. High schoolers challenge the Border Patrol.
While scouring the Sonoran Desert for objects left behind by migrants crossing into the United States, anthropologist Jason De León happened upon something he didnt expect to get left behind: a human arm, stripped of flesh.
This macabre discovery sent him reeling, needing to know what exactly happened to the body, and how many migrants die that way in the wilderness. In researching border-crosser deaths in the Arizona desert, he noticed something surprising. Sometime in the late-1990s, the number of migrant deaths shot up dramatically and have stayed high since. Jason traced this increase to a Border Patrol policy still in effect, called “Prevention Through Deterrence.”
In a series first aired back in 2018, over three episodes, Radiolab investigates this policy, its surprising origins, and the people whose lives were changed forever because of it.
Part 1: Hole in the Fence
We begin one afternoon in May 1992, when a student named Albert stumbled in late for history class at Bowie High School in El Paso, Texas. His excuse: Border Patrol. Soon more stories of students getting stopped and harassed by Border Patrol started pouring in. So begins the unlikely story of how a handful of Mexican-American high schoolers in one of the poorest neighborhoods in the country stood up to what is today the country’s largest federal law enforcement agency. They had no way of knowing at the time, but what would follow was a chain of events that would drastically change the US-Mexico border.
Special thanks to Centro de Salud Familiar La Fe, Estela Reyes López, Barbara Hines, Lynn M. Morgan, Mallory Falk, Francesca Begos and Nancy Wiese from Hachette Book Group, Professor Michael Olivas at the University of Houston Law Center, and Josiah McC. Heyman at the Center for Interamerican and Border Studies.
[CONTENT WARNING: The second segment of this episode contains graphic descriptions of bodies in the desert, and may not be appropriate for a young or sensitive audience.]
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Guests in this episode include: Jason De León, Juan Sybert-Coronado, Nidia Rodriguez, Ernesto Muñoz, Marcela De Leon, Ricardo Vielma, Ben Murillo, David Ham, Tony Santos, Albert Armendariz Jr.
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