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From the Radiolab podcast: What happens when the ocean’s most feared predator comes under attack?
This is episode four of Swimming with Shadows: A Radiolab Week of Sharks.
Alison Kock was working at a car wash in Cape Town when she made a discovery that completely changed the course of her life. Inside a customer’s trunk, she found photographs of white sharks flying so high above the water they looked like airplanes. She followed those photographs to False Bay, “the Great White Capital of the World.” These sharks, in this place, are the apex of apex predators. Or they were. Until they mysteriously began to disappear.
Special thanks to Kathryn Ayres.
EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by Rachael Cusick
Produced by Simon Adler and Maria Paz Gutiérrez
With help from Rebecca Laks
Original music from Simon Adler and Maria Paz Gutiérrez
Sound design and mixing help from Jeremy Bloom
Fact-checking by Diane A. Kelly
And edited by Pat Walters
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From the Radiolab podcast: What happens when the ocean’s most feared predator comes under attack?
This is episode four of Swimming with Shadows: A Radiolab Week of Sharks.
Alison Kock was working at a car wash in Cape Town when she made a discovery that completely changed the course of her life. Inside a customer’s trunk, she found photographs of white sharks flying so high above the water they looked like airplanes. She followed those photographs to False Bay, “the Great White Capital of the World.” These sharks, in this place, are the apex of apex predators. Or they were. Until they mysteriously began to disappear.
Special thanks to Kathryn Ayres.
EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by Rachael Cusick
Produced by Simon Adler and Maria Paz Gutiérrez
With help from Rebecca Laks
Original music from Simon Adler and Maria Paz Gutiérrez
Sound design and mixing help from Jeremy Bloom
Fact-checking by Diane A. Kelly
And edited by Pat Walters
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Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org.
Leadership support for Radiolab’s science programming is provided by the Simons Foundation and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.
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Photo illustration by Jared Bartman
Video by W. Harry Fortuna
