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AI is dramatically reducing the cost and complexity of software creation. But when anyone can code, what does that mean for engineers and business leaders?
Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy sees an “industrialization of intelligence” that’s fundamentally changing work. While this has terrified him at times, he also sees it as a tremendous opportunity for individuals and companies to scale their work.
Ramaswamy tells McKinsey’s North America Chair Eric Kutcher that he’s seen a new class of “uber programmers” who are 50 to 100 times more productive than they were a year ago. They discuss how AI agents are changing software development, the future of pricing models, and how organizations can adapt to rapid technological changes. Ramaswamy then shares his two “surefire hits” of AI with massive ROI and the lessons he learned working at Google.
*Chapters:*
00:00 - Intro: Where AI stands today
02:45 - When anyone can code
04:35 - Keeping up with the pace of change
7:48 - The future of pricing models
12:04 - AI with ROI
13:50 - Change management for growth
16:56 - Protecting your career
18:03 - Lessons from a varied career
22:50 - Advice for future leaders
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About the hosts: Lucia Rahilly is McKinsey’s global editorial director and deputy publisher of McKinsey Global Publishing. Roberta Fusaro is McKinsey’s Editorial Director, Convenor Publishing Board.
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AI is dramatically reducing the cost and complexity of software creation. But when anyone can code, what does that mean for engineers and business leaders?
Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy sees an “industrialization of intelligence” that’s fundamentally changing work. While this has terrified him at times, he also sees it as a tremendous opportunity for individuals and companies to scale their work.
Ramaswamy tells McKinsey’s North America Chair Eric Kutcher that he’s seen a new class of “uber programmers” who are 50 to 100 times more productive than they were a year ago. They discuss how AI agents are changing software development, the future of pricing models, and how organizations can adapt to rapid technological changes. Ramaswamy then shares his two “surefire hits” of AI with massive ROI and the lessons he learned working at Google.
*Chapters:*
00:00 - Intro: Where AI stands today
02:45 - When anyone can code
04:35 - Keeping up with the pace of change
7:48 - The future of pricing models
12:04 - AI with ROI
13:50 - Change management for growth
16:56 - Protecting your career
18:03 - Lessons from a varied career
22:50 - Advice for future leaders
*Connect with us:*
Contact Eric Kutcher: mckinsey.com/our-people/eric-kutcher
Subscribe to our newsletters: mck.co/Subscribe
Subscribe on YouTube: mck.co/YouTube
Facebook: mck.co/Facebook
Twitter: mck.co/Twitter
LinkedIn: mck.co/LinkedIn
Instagram: mck.co/Instagram
About the hosts: Lucia Rahilly is McKinsey’s global editorial director and deputy publisher of McKinsey Global Publishing. Roberta Fusaro is McKinsey’s Editorial Director, Convenor Publishing Board.
Theme music composed, performed, and produced by Joy Ngiaw.
See mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information.
