Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Near-Infrared Light Therapy & EMF Shielding with SaunaSpace Founder Brian Richards
Your mitochondria are starving for a nutrient you've probably never tracked, and it's not a vitamin or a macro. This episode reveals how a forgotten 1910 therapy uses light to physically restructure water inside your cells, unlocking a mechanism for healing, detox, and mitochondria repair that most of biohacking has completely overlooked.
Go to https://sauna.space/ and use code ‘Dave’ for a 15% discount!
Host Dave Asprey sits down with Brian Richards, founder of SaunaSpace and a leading voice in incandescent light therapy and infrared sauna engineering. With a background in chemistry and organic synthesis, Brian spent over a decade building a science-backed alternative to LED-based light therapy rooted in full-spectrum incandescent light and deep radiant heat. After healing his own insomnia, adrenal fatigue, and brain fog through light and heat exposure, he developed the FireLight Spectrum, a technology engineered to restore what modern lighting strips away.
Dave and Brian trace incandescent light therapy back to Dr. John Harvey Kellogg's 1910 book on light therapeutics, and explain why the same institutional forces that suppressed chiropractic care and natural medicine buried this practice for over a century. They break down how near-infrared light penetrates the body to charge water into a more bioavailable state, boost glutathione and melatonin production, and repolarize cellular voltage for better metabolism and longevity. The conversation also covers why blue light from LEDs devastates hormones, testosterone, and fertility, how EMF exposure silently drains human performance, and why grounding and Faraday shielding matter more than most supplements on the market.
You'll Learn:
-Why near-infrared light functions as an essential nutrient your body cannot make without it
-How light physically restructures water to improve mitochondria function and cellular energy
-The suppressed history of Dr. Kellogg's incandescent light therapy and why it disappeared
-How blue light exposure crashes testosterone and disrupts fertility and hormone regulation
-Why EMF shielding and grounding are critical, overlooked tools for longevity and recovery
-How to use infrared light like a daily supplement instead of an occasional treatment
-Why carnivore-adjacent, nutrient-dense eating pairs naturally with light and heat therapy
Resources:
• Go to https://sauna.space/ and use code ‘Dave’ for a 15% discount!
• Get My 2026 Clean Nicotine Roadmap | Enroll for free at daveasprey.com/2026-clean-nicotine-roadmap
• Dave Asprey's Latest News | Go to daveasprey.com to join Inside Track today.
• Danger Coffee: dangercoffee.com/discount/davetube
• My Daily Supplements: SuppGrade Labs (15% Off)
• Favorite Blue Light Blocking Glasses: TrueDark (15% Off)
• Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: beyondconference.com
• Dave Asprey’s New Book – Heavily Meditated: daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
• Join My Substack (Live Access To Podcast Recordings): substack.daveasprey.com
• Upgrade Labs: upgradelabs.com
Thank you to our sponsors!
- ELITE Performance Coaching | If you’d like to discover where you may be addicted to struggle, allergic to success, and what may be standing between you and your next breakthrough, visit FastestChange.com
- Longevity Farms | Go to getlongevityfarms.shop. Use code DAVE for 20% off your next order.
- Calroy | Go to calroy.com/dave for the clinical research, your discount, and a 45-day money-back guarantee.
- PredictiveMind™ | Get your Brain Pattern Mapping report at predictivemind.io/dave and use code DAVE for 10% off.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Trailer
00:46 – Meet Brian Richards
03:17 – Kellogg's Light Bath History
09:04 – Persecuted Light Pioneers
12:47 – Near-Infrared Science
16:07 – Blue Light Damage
19:26 – Sunscreen Myths
23:52 – Antidote & Melatonin
33:24 – Exclusion Zone Water
37:52 – Heart as a Vortex
41:47 – Fireplace & Infrared Deficiency
46:15 – FireLight Bulb Design
51:52 – EMF Shielding
55:16 – Faraday Cage & Grounding
1:05:51 – Sauna.Space Discount
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Danger Coffee: dangercoffee.com/discount/davetube
Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: beyondconference.com
Dave Asprey’s New Book - Heavily Meditated: daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
Dave's favorite supplements: shopsuppgradelabs.com/discount/DAVE15
Join my Substack: substack.daveasprey.com
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Near-Infrared Light Therapy & EMF Shielding with SaunaSpace Founder Brian Richards
Your mitochondria are starving for a nutrient you've probably never tracked, and it's not a vitamin or a macro. This episode reveals how a forgotten 1910 therapy uses light to physically restructure water inside your cells, unlocking a mechanism for healing, detox, and mitochondria repair that most of biohacking has completely overlooked.
Go to https://sauna.space/ and use code ‘Dave’ for a 15% discount!
Host Dave Asprey sits down with Brian Richards, founder of SaunaSpace and a leading voice in incandescent light therapy and infrared sauna engineering. With a background in chemistry and organic synthesis, Brian spent over a decade building a science-backed alternative to LED-based light therapy rooted in full-spectrum incandescent light and deep radiant heat. After healing his own insomnia, adrenal fatigue, and brain fog through light and heat exposure, he developed the FireLight Spectrum, a technology engineered to restore what modern lighting strips away.
Dave and Brian trace incandescent light therapy back to Dr. John Harvey Kellogg's 1910 book on light therapeutics, and explain why the same institutional forces that suppressed chiropractic care and natural medicine buried this practice for over a century. They break down how near-infrared light penetrates the body to charge water into a more bioavailable state, boost glutathione and melatonin production, and repolarize cellular voltage for better metabolism and longevity. The conversation also covers why blue light from LEDs devastates hormones, testosterone, and fertility, how EMF exposure silently drains human performance, and why grounding and Faraday shielding matter more than most supplements on the market.
You'll Learn:
-Why near-infrared light functions as an essential nutrient your body cannot make without it
-How light physically restructures water to improve mitochondria function and cellular energy
-The suppressed history of Dr. Kellogg's incandescent light therapy and why it disappeared
-How blue light exposure crashes testosterone and disrupts fertility and hormone regulation
-Why EMF shielding and grounding are critical, overlooked tools for longevity and recovery
-How to use infrared light like a daily supplement instead of an occasional treatment
-Why carnivore-adjacent, nutrient-dense eating pairs naturally with light and heat therapy
Resources:
• Go to https://sauna.space/ and use code ‘Dave’ for a 15% discount!
• Get My 2026 Clean Nicotine Roadmap | Enroll for free at daveasprey.com/2026-clean-nicotine-roadmap
• Dave Asprey's Latest News | Go to daveasprey.com to join Inside Track today.
• Danger Coffee: dangercoffee.com/discount/davetube
• My Daily Supplements: SuppGrade Labs (15% Off)
• Favorite Blue Light Blocking Glasses: TrueDark (15% Off)
• Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: beyondconference.com
• Dave Asprey’s New Book – Heavily Meditated: daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
• Join My Substack (Live Access To Podcast Recordings): substack.daveasprey.com
• Upgrade Labs: upgradelabs.com
Thank you to our sponsors!
- ELITE Performance Coaching | If you’d like to discover where you may be addicted to struggle, allergic to success, and what may be standing between you and your next breakthrough, visit FastestChange.com
- Longevity Farms | Go to getlongevityfarms.shop. Use code DAVE for 20% off your next order.
- Calroy | Go to calroy.com/dave for the clinical research, your discount, and a 45-day money-back guarantee.
- PredictiveMind™ | Get your Brain Pattern Mapping report at predictivemind.io/dave and use code DAVE for 10% off.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Trailer
00:46 – Meet Brian Richards
03:17 – Kellogg's Light Bath History
09:04 – Persecuted Light Pioneers
12:47 – Near-Infrared Science
16:07 – Blue Light Damage
19:26 – Sunscreen Myths
23:52 – Antidote & Melatonin
33:24 – Exclusion Zone Water
37:52 – Heart as a Vortex
41:47 – Fireplace & Infrared Deficiency
46:15 – FireLight Bulb Design
51:52 – EMF Shielding
55:16 – Faraday Cage & Grounding
1:05:51 – Sauna.Space Discount
TikTok: tiktok.com/@daveaspreyofficial
Instagram: instagram.com/dave.asprey
Facebook: facebook.com/Daveaspreyofficial
X: https://x.com/daveasprey
The Human Upgrade Podcast: instagram.com/TheHumanUpgradePodcast https://m.facebook.com/Thehumanupgrade
Danger Coffee: dangercoffee.com/discount/davetube
Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: beyondconference.com
Dave Asprey’s New Book - Heavily Meditated: daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
Dave's favorite supplements: shopsuppgradelabs.com/discount/DAVE15
Join my Substack: substack.daveasprey.com
Upgrade Labs: upgradelabs.com
40 Years of Zen: 40yearsofzen.com
