Your ESG Data May Be Pointing at the Wrong Risk @TomRafterytv
Your ESG Data May Be Pointing at the Wrong Risk  @TomRafterytv
Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Most carbon plans fail before the maths starts.
The wrong boundary can make a bad decision look responsible.

My guest is John Beath, CEO and Chief Technical Director of John Beath Environmental. John works across environmental compliance, lifecycle assessment, carbon footprinting, and sustainability, helping organisations understand where their environmental impact really sits before they spend money trying to reduce it.

That matters because supply chain and operations leaders are under pressure from every direction: cost volatility, customer claims, ESG scrutiny, packaging rules, raw material risk, waste, and growing demands for primary data from suppliers. The danger is not just that organisations lack data. It is that they measure the convenient parts of the system, miss the real hotspots, and then optimise the wrong thing with great confidence. Humanity does enjoy precision-guided nonsense.

What changed my thinking was John’s insistence on practicality. A tiny thermostat adjustment can matter more than a visible packaging win. A reusable bottle’s footprint may sit mostly in raw materials, not factory operations. A clinical trial’s carbon problem may be patient travel, not drug manufacturing. And recycling only works if the reverse logistics do not quietly create a bigger footprint than the waste problem they are meant to solve.

This is for senior supply chain, procurement, operations, ESG, and risk leaders who need better decisions, not prettier dashboards. It is a practical discussion about measurement, trade-offs, supplier data, lifecycle assessment, and where carbon reduction work actually earns its keep.

If you’re dealing with this on the ground, I’d like to hear how you’re deciding what really matters.

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Chapters / Timestamps

00:00 – When visible sustainability work misses the real impact
00:27 – Why process engineering changes carbon decisions
05:32 – When carbon data points leaders at the wrong target
10:33 – Bad system boundaries create bad carbon decisions
14:47 – Raw materials: the first supply chain risk to measure
17:37 – When recycled and bio-based inputs backfire
19:55 – Follow the mass before chasing carbon claims
22:47 – The missing cost layer in lifecycle assessment
26:37 – Why patient travel can dwarf product manufacturing
35:17 – Waste, e-waste, and the recovery blind spot
43:00 – Reverse logistics can make recycling fail
49:16 – Green claims need ISO discipline and review
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