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In this episode, Kelly shares her recent paper Unfurling the Myth, presented at the University of Exeter during a workshop on Process Philosophy, Plasma Cosmology, and Transpersonal Psychology. This gathering brought together scientists, philosophers, and researchers—including Robert Temple, Jeffrey Kripal, Bernard Carr, Massimo Teodorani, and Nick Cook—to explore the possibility that plasma, the fourth state of matter, could serve as a substrate for non-biological intelligence.
Kelly’s paper argues that the UFO phenomenon is not just an anomaly in the sky but a relational event—an encounter that engages the psyche through the deep structures of narrative. Rather than delivering answers, the phenomenon generates mystery, catalyzing transformation on both personal and cultural levels.
Drawing on thinkers like Robert Temple, Jacques Vallée, and Eric Davis, as well as research in narrative cognition and the psychology of curiosity, Kelly explores how UFOs may function as mythic initiators: destabilizing our categories of knowledge, activating curiosity, and compelling us to tell new stories. These stories are not just interpretations but mechanisms of reality-making—reshaping our understanding of self, world, and cosmos.
Key Themes in This Episode:
—Plasma cosmology and the possibility of plasma-based intelligence
—The UFO as relational event, not just object or craft
—Narrative as a generative interface between psyche and field
—How curiosity and myth catalyze transformation
—The “Call to Adventure” in experiencer narratives
—Cultural and personal shifts documented in experiencer research
—The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings
Whether you’re new to these ideas or steeped in the mysteries of UFOs, this episode invites you to consider the phenomenon not as something to solve, but as something to participate in—a story in which we are all co-creators.
Resources & References
—Robert Temple, A New Science of Heaven: https://a.co/d/9cIc6Ec
—Jacques Vallée & Eric Davis, Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness: https://www.academia.edu/36788970/Incommensurability_Orthodoxy_and_the_Physics_of_High_Strangeness_A_six_layer_model_for_Anomalous_Phenomena
—George Loewenstein, The Psychology of Curiosity: https://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~gl20/GeorgeLoewenstein/Papers_files/pdf/PsychofCuriosity.pdf
—Will Storr, The Science of Storytelling: https://a.co/d/cC3zh0V
—Stanislav & Christina Grof, Spiritual Emergency: https://a.co/d/eXFK4OC
—Hernandez et al., Beyond UFOs: https://a.co/d/iv7XOtj
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TIMESTAMPS
00:38 Exploring Plasma Cosmology
01:22 The Significance of Plasma-Based Intelligence
02:20 Introduction to the Paper: Unfurling the Myth
03:25 Understanding the UFO Phenomenon
04:51 The Role of Narrative in UFO Encounters
06:45 Rethinking the UFO
11:25 Curiosity and the Mythic Initiation
15:30 Awakening the Hero Within
19:57 Remaking the World Through UFO Encounters
In this episode, Kelly shares her recent paper Unfurling the Myth, presented at the University of Exeter during a workshop on Process Philosophy, Plasma Cosmology, and Transpersonal Psychology. This gathering brought together scientists, philosophers, and researchers—including Robert Temple, Jeffrey Kripal, Bernard Carr, Massimo Teodorani, and Nick Cook—to explore the possibility that plasma, the fourth state of matter, could serve as a substrate for non-biological intelligence.
Kelly’s paper argues that the UFO phenomenon is not just an anomaly in the sky but a relational event—an encounter that engages the psyche through the deep structures of narrative. Rather than delivering answers, the phenomenon generates mystery, catalyzing transformation on both personal and cultural levels.
Drawing on thinkers like Robert Temple, Jacques Vallée, and Eric Davis, as well as research in narrative cognition and the psychology of curiosity, Kelly explores how UFOs may function as mythic initiators: destabilizing our categories of knowledge, activating curiosity, and compelling us to tell new stories. These stories are not just interpretations but mechanisms of reality-making—reshaping our understanding of self, world, and cosmos.
Key Themes in This Episode:
—Plasma cosmology and the possibility of plasma-based intelligence
—The UFO as relational event, not just object or craft
—Narrative as a generative interface between psyche and field
—How curiosity and myth catalyze transformation
—The “Call to Adventure” in experiencer narratives
—Cultural and personal shifts documented in experiencer research
—The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings
Whether you’re new to these ideas or steeped in the mysteries of UFOs, this episode invites you to consider the phenomenon not as something to solve, but as something to participate in—a story in which we are all co-creators.
Resources & References
—Robert Temple, A New Science of Heaven: https://a.co/d/9cIc6Ec
—Jacques Vallée & Eric Davis, Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness: https://www.academia.edu/36788970/Incommensurability_Orthodoxy_and_the_Physics_of_High_Strangeness_A_six_layer_model_for_Anomalous_Phenomena
—George Loewenstein, The Psychology of Curiosity: https://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~gl20/GeorgeLoewenstein/Papers_files/pdf/PsychofCuriosity.pdf
—Will Storr, The Science of Storytelling: https://a.co/d/cC3zh0V
—Stanislav & Christina Grof, Spiritual Emergency: https://a.co/d/eXFK4OC
—Hernandez et al., Beyond UFOs: https://a.co/d/iv7XOtj
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TIMESTAMPS
00:38 Exploring Plasma Cosmology
01:22 The Significance of Plasma-Based Intelligence
02:20 Introduction to the Paper: Unfurling the Myth
03:25 Understanding the UFO Phenomenon
04:51 The Role of Narrative in UFO Encounters
06:45 Rethinking the UFO
11:25 Curiosity and the Mythic Initiation
15:30 Awakening the Hero Within
19:57 Remaking the World Through UFO Encounters
![The Moon is Weird AF [Pt 5]: Total Eclipses Are [Also] Weird AF #moonmystery #solareclipse
🌑 Total solar eclipses are one of the strangest cosmic coincidences.
The Sun is 400 times wider than the Moon—and also 400 times farther away. That’s why, from Earth, they appear exactly the same size.
It’s what makes total eclipses possible, and it only works from here.
Most moons don’t even orbit in a way that allows eclipses. Ours does—perfectly.
Coincidence? Or something more?
Follow for Part 6: Some scientists think the Moon may not be a moon at all.
#SolarEclipse #PerfectAlignment #MoonMystery #Cosmosis #TheMoonIsWeird #SpaceCoincidence #HiddenInPlainSight #CelestialMechanics #HighStrangeness #AltScience #EclipseTok The Moon is Weird AF [Pt 5]: Total Eclipses Are [Also] Weird AF #moonmystery #solareclipse](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AcTYBW0l3fk/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Field Notes] Atheism Is the Opiate of the Masses: Probing The Blind Spots of Secular Certainty
What if the worldview functioning as an opiate today is not religion, but its absence?
In this field notes episode of Inquiry, Kelly Chase examines atheism not as a private belief or philosophical conclusion, but as a very recent mass cultural formation that now functions as the default worldview of educated Western society. Beginning with Marx’s famous claim that religion is the opiate of the masses, she asks whether modern secular materialism may now be serving a similar sedating function by making vast areas of human experience feel intellectually off-limits.
From there, the episode turns toward elite metaphysics. The public is often told that materialism is the rational, mature, evidence-based position, yet many of the people and institutions shaping the future take seriously spirituality, consciousness, simulation theory, mysticism, ritual, and esoteric frameworks. The question is not whether any single belief system is true, but whether citizens trained to dismiss the symbolic and metaphysical have been given a map that cannot represent the terrain power is actually navigating.
Finally, the episode considers the empirical and philosophical pressure points inside strict materialism: the hard problem of consciousness, near-death experience research, the PEAR Lab at Princeton, Dean Radin’s work at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, and anomalous findings that are usually met not with rigorous refutation but with studied disregard. These findings are not treated as proof of any particular metaphysics. They are treated as evidence that the question remains open, and that a genuine skeptic should apply suspicion not only to extraordinary claims, but to the dominant worldview that decides in advance which claims are allowed to count.
Topics explored: Marx and religion | opiate of the masses | atheism as ideology | secularization | materialism | consciousness | the hard problem | non-material reality | elite belief | WEF and spirituality | Silicon Valley mysticism | simulation theory | René Girard | Peter Thiel | Elon Musk | Bohemian Grove | ritual and power | Skull and Bones | esotericism | operative metaphysics | near-death experiences | PEAR Lab | Dean Radin | anomalous cognition | mind-matter interaction | dogma and skepticism | worldview enforcement | social sanction | epistemic humility | the metaphysics of power
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
01:09 Marx and the Opiate of the Masses
02:09 Atheism as a Recent Experiment
00:27 Braving Belief Talk
01:26 Atheism as Opiate
02:22 How New Secularism Is
04:21 Elites Arent Secular
07:03 Materialisms Blind Spots
08:35 Anomalies and Dogma
10:01 Social Enforcement of Belief
11:53 A Better Skepticism
12:37 Waking Up to Metaphysics
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![[Field Notes] The Question of Evil: The Secret Theology of Ufologys Elite
After years immersed in the deep end of ufology, one question has proven impossible to shake: how is it that certain factions of the intelligence community—people who possess more evidence than most that consciousness survives death, that the soul is real, and that we are more than our physical bodies—so consistently engage in profound acts of moral evil?
This Field Notes episode explores the contradiction at the heart of anomalous research: the same fundamental knowledge about non-material reality that tends to moralize everyday experiencers, deepening their compassion, ethical sensitivity, and sense of consequence, appears to have the opposite effect in certain institutionalized contexts. Why? And what does that divergence reveal?
Kelly argues that the answer isnt hypocrisy, isnt power, and isnt institutional pressure alone. Its theology—not in the formal religious sense, but in the deeper sense: the set of assumptions a person holds about what is real, what matters, and what counts. Every action presupposes a theory of reality. And when someone is willing to deceive, coerce, and harm others in service of a greater purpose, that willingness is not an operational detail. Its a theological commitment.
What kind of belief system allows someone to acknowledge the reality of the soul while treating human beings as expendable? What does it tell us about the UFO coverup that the people closest to the truth appear to have constructed a secret theology that quietly authorizes evil?
This is one of the most important questions in ufology—and almost no one is asking it.
Get the episode transcript on Substack: https://inquirywithkellychase.substack.com/p/the-question-of-evil
🗒️ About Field Notes
Field Notes are short-form episodes where Kelly thinks aloud—tracing patterns, chasing questions, and working through ideas that havent yet reached their conclusion. The path of inquiry is messy and non-linear, and Field Notes is where that process lives out loud. For access to the full archive of written Field Notes, visit inquirywithkellychase.substack.com.
Topics explored: UAP disclosure | consciousness and survival of death | anomalous experience research | intelligence community secrecy | moral philosophy | secret theology | FREE Foundation data | PSYOP doctrine | the ethics of the coverup
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Referenced in this episode:
Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence
by Reinerio Hernandez J.D., Rudy Schild PH.D., Jon Klimo PH.D.
Get it here: https://amzn.to/4vfEryq
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Watch Season 1 of Comosis: UFOs & A New Reality
Prime Video: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0GR10KHFPAGTE1FK7173P5I2N1/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Welcome to Field Notes
00:48 The Question That Haunts Me
01:51 What Experiencers Report
04:09 The Intelligence Contradiction
04:48 Everything Is Theology
06:42 Belief Shapes Behavior
08:18 Why Knowledge Diverges
10:04 A Secret Theology of Ufology’s Elite
10:24 Closing and Credits
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![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Through The Looking Glass [Pt 3]: Upsight & The Future of Human Consciousness
Welcome back to The UFO Rabbit Hole.
Today we return to the old podcast stomping grounds for the long-awaited part 3 of the Through the Looking Glass Series. In this episode, we follow Tom Matte as he heads to the Institute of Noetic Sciences in search of answers about his strange psi ability that he calls Upsight. What the team of scientists, working on chief scientist Dean Radin, found once that got him the lab was nothing short of groundbreaking. Could this help Tom finally get the answers he’s looking for? And what does all of this imply about the future of human consciousness?
Today we dive back into the deepest part of the rabbit hole to find out.
REGISTER HERE to attend Kelly and Tom’s free online talk hosted by IONS this Friday, February 6th at 8 AM EST/11 AM PST: https://noetic.org/event/from-sight-to-upsight/
If you aren’t caught up on parts and 1 & 2 of this series, you’ll want to start there. You can find the full episodes here:
Through the Looking Glass [Pt 1]: My Initiation in the Anomalous
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Through the Looking Glass [Pt 2]: The Strange Tale of Tom Matte & Upsight
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Referenced in this episode:
Investigating the Brain Processes Underlying an Unusual Visual Experience: A Case Study: https://journals.lub.lu.se/jaex/article/view/25894/24635
The Institute of Noetic Sciences: https://noetic.org/
Tom Matte’s Website: https://www.tom-matte.com/
The 8 Stages of Upsight Vision [Free Download]: https://www.tom-matte.com/the-eight-stages-of-upsight-vision
Dave Rossi’s Interview on Jess Michel’s podcast, American Alchemy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OUzGygIrSw
TIMESTAMPS
01:34 Recap of Previous Episodes
02:31 Upcoming Live Event Announcement
03:19 Introduction to Tom Matte and Upsight
05:13 Toms Journey to Scientific Validation
07:29 The IONS Study and Its Findings
11:24 Understanding Brainwave Patterns
20:27 Implications and Future Directions
26:16 Toms Personal Upsight Readings
31:44 Exploring Non-Local Consciousness
33:11 Challenging Current Models of Reality
39:10 The Filter Hypothesis and Anomalous Experiences
46:03 Scientific Insights from Non-Human Intelligence
49:22 The Broader Pattern of Anomalous Experiences [The UFO Rabbit Hole] Through The Looking Glass [Pt 3]: Upsight & The Future of Human Consciousness](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D7B0gobmnqQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Dr. James Madden [Pt 2]: Unidentified Flying Hyperobject
Today we welcome back Dr. James Madden to the show. As I’m sure you’ll recall, Jim joined us a couple of months ago for a discussion about Plato’s Cave. We also discussed some of his latest work applying the philosophical concept of the umwelt to the UFO phenomenon. And I was really excited to see that that episode has become one of the most listened to episodes of the podcasts, because it’s definitely one of my favorites. If you haven’t listened to that episode yet, I highly recommend that you go back to that one first. Jim’s work builds on itself, and it will be helpful to lay down the foundation with that episode before moving onto this one.
In this episode, we’ll be moving on to Dr. Madden’s latest work. Over the last few months, in a flurry of articles released through his Substack, Jim has laid out a series of arguments as to the nature of the UFO phenomenon that are, frankly, mind blowing. It’s not over-stating things to say that what Jim has done is to essentially break ufology–and I mean that in the best possible way.
Because, in many ways, it’s been clear to anyone who is really paying attention that the traditional models and ontologies that have dominated modern ufology have needed to break. We began this podcast talking about what the UFO phenomenon might be, and we did a deep dive into the primary hypotheses including extraterrestrial, ultraterrestrial, interdimensional, extraterrestrial, etc. And all of those models are really useful for helping us to push our thinking about what the intelligence behind UFOs may represent. But if we’re being really honest with ourselves, we have to admit that none of them really fit. They come close in some ways, fall short in others, and ultimately leave us feeling like we’re trying to stretch a full-sized sheet over a queen-sized bed.
What we’ve needed–desperately–is a model that would collapse all of those ontological categories and integrate them into a larger, more coherent whole. And I’d argue that what Dr. Madden is postulating with regard to the UFO phenomenon does exactly that. I truly believe that what he is pointing to here is the future of ufology. This work is urgent and critically important for us moving forward.
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DR. JAMES MADDEN’S WORK
The Substack: https://jdmadden.substack.com/
Articles Referenced In This Episode (on Substack)
UFO Realism and the Uber-Umwelt
Unidentified Flying Hyperobject
Magonia as Hyperobject
The UFO, Religion, and Our Epistemic Vulnerability
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OTHER WORK REFERENCED
Hyperobjects: Philosophy and Ecology after the End of the World (Posthumanities) by Timothy Morton: https://a.co/d/1Nx4qgd
The Third Table by Graham Harman: https://www.scribd.com/doc/217978650/Graham-Harman-the-Third-Table
Object-Oriented Ontology: A New Theory of Everything by Graham Harman: https://a.co/d/37PVhA4
The Will to Power by Friedrich Nietzsche: https://a.co/d/52JwKpc
Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche: https://a.co/d/4BPJnrR
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MUSIC
Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMPS
00:00:30 Introduction
00:03:54 Objects & Object Oriented Ontology
00:20:10 Hyperobjects
00:30:06 The UFO As Hyperobject
00:38:04 Magonia As Hyperobject
00:41:47 Breaking Ufology
00:45:59 AI & Creating The Hyperobject
00:53:14 Nietzsche & The Last Man [The UFO Rabbit Hole] Dr. James Madden [Pt 2]: Unidentified Flying Hyperobject](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DgJt4vlOZjY/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Cosmosis] Ep 2: Courtney Leffall [Pt 2]: Integrating the Anomalous
In this episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King welcome back experiencer Courtney Leffall, whose story was featured in the docuseries, Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality. Together, they explore the deeply personal and societal implications of anomalous experiences, the role of disclosure, and how we integrate these experiences into our lives. Courtney shares his thoughts on government transparency, the connection between UFOs and ancestral spirits, and the need for interdisciplinary collaboration in understanding these phenomena.
This episode of Cosmosis offers a deeply personal and intellectual dive into the experiencer phenomenon, government disclosure, and the spiritual implications of UFO contact. Courtney Leffall provides a unique and necessary perspective, bridging religious, cultural, and experiencer narratives to offer a more holistic view of what may be unfolding.
Listeners are left with a challenge: Can we break down our own biases and expand the conversation to include perspectives we may have previously dismissed?
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 – Introduction: Future Human Hypothesis & Consciousness
00:01:12 – Welcome & Podcast Background
00:03:25 – Courtney’s UFO Encounter: Intelligent Control
00:05:37 – What Disclosure Means: Government Transparency & Secrecy
00:08:14 – Trust & Testimony: Do We Need Government Validation?
00:14:09 – High Strangeness: Beyond UFO Sightings
00:18:42 – Breaking Silos: Scientists, Experiencers & Philosophers
00:23:56 – Integrating Anomalous Experiences: Self-Acceptance
00:29:33 – UFOs & The Dead: Ancestral Spirits & Contact
00:38:21 – CE5 & Summoning: The Risks of Contact
00:45:45 – Are UFOs Demonic? Faith & The Phenomenon
00:51:18 – Race, Culture & The UFO Community
00:58:06 – Inclusivity: Expanding the Conversation
01:08:44 – What the Phenomenon Tells Us About Humanity
01:11:29 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action [Cosmosis] Ep 2: Courtney Leffall [Pt 2]: Integrating the Anomalous](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EStI_rnPDRU/mqdefault.jpg)



![The Moon Is Weird AF [Pt 2]: Did We Really Land on the Moon? #moonlanding #science
🚀 The Moon landing hoax is one of the most famous conspiracy theories of all time.
But what if it’s not a cover-up that we didn’t go… but a distraction from what we found when we did?
Some believe the Moon itself is hiding secrets—and the debate over the landing is just sleight of hand.
🌑 Follow for Part 3: Because scientifically speaking, the Moon shouldn’t even exist.
#MoonLanding #StanleyKubrick #TheShining #ConspiracyTok #SpaceSecrets #UAP #HiddenTruths #AltScience #DeepLore #MoonMystery #QuestionEverything #Cosmosis The Moon Is Weird AF [Pt 2]: Did We Really Land on the Moon? #moonlanding #science](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GiwSWw5Vk8I/mqdefault.jpg)