UFO Disclosure or Disinformation? | Elizondo, Erdman, NDAA & Grusch 3 Years On @ThatUFOPodcast
UFO Disclosure or Disinformation? | Elizondo, Erdman, NDAA & Grusch 3 Years On  @ThatUFOPodcast
Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Three years after David Grusch told Congress that non-human biologics had been recovered alongside crashed craft, how much closer are we to the truth?

Andy is joined by Pavel from the Psychoactivo Podcast to examine whether the latest developments represent genuine UFO disclosure or another layer of managed transparency, misinformation and political theatre.

They discuss:

Eric Burlison’s latest push for UAP whistleblowers to come forward

Whether the UAP Disclosure Act can survive the NDAA process

Why waiving NDAs does not necessarily protect whistleblowers

Former CIA officer James Erdman III’s warnings about disinformation, counterintelligence and grift

The growing frustration surrounding Jeremy Corbell, unreleased evidence and promises of more to come

Lue Elizondo’s reported comments involving George Knapp

Whether Donald Trump is genuinely interested in UFO disclosure

Three years after the Grusch hearing, are we seeing meaningful progress, or is the UFO topic still trapped in the same cycle of extraordinary claims, hidden sources and missing evidence?

Let us know your thoughts in the comments and subscribe for more interviews, investigations and weekly UFO news.


Timestamps
00:00 Welcome and Monday Show Kickoff
01:05 Pavel’s Comic-Con Experience
02:28 Cosplay, One Piece and UFOs
03:29 Where Is the UFO Summer?
04:07 Ufology’s Infighting Problem
07:13 David Grusch: Three Years On
10:53 Have Expectations Become Unrealistic?
12:40 Sensationalism vs Serious Discussion
14:59 How UFO Media Shapes the Narrative
20:13 Eric Burlison Takes the Lead
23:07 What the NDA Waiver Really Means
25:23 Can Whistleblowers Trust AARO?
29:06 The UAPDA’s Path Through the Senate
32:36 Matthew Brown’s “Catch and Kill” Warning
36:32 Who Needs to Testify Next?
38:55 The Legal Reality of UFO Disclosure
40:00 Could Whistleblowers Be Silenced Again?
41:25 Why Waiving NDAs Is Not Enough
43:41 The Bureaucracy Pizza Analogy
45:46 James Erdman on UFOs and Disinformation
50:42 Psyops, Sources and Who to Trust
59:45 The Jeremy Corbell Backlash
01:05:58 Classified Videos, Ego and Disclosure
01:17:13 Vague Claims and Missing Evidence
01:20:30 Corbell and Knapp’s Disclosure Impact
01:22:12 The White House UFO Meme
01:24:25 Is Trump Interested in Disclosure?
01:25:33 Disclosure or Managed Transparency?
01:34:24 Why the Nazca Mummies Story Stalled
01:38:14 Do Non-Humans Take Days Off?
01:39:37 Mass Sightings in the Age of AI
01:44:34 Separating Evidence From Bullshit
01:46:15 Independence, Access and Media Ethics
01:53:20 Upcoming Interviews and Final Thoughts
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