Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
UPDATE: With the first UFO files expected today, this conversation now feels even more relevant. Grusch suggested the files may not be the main event, and that bigger movement could come within 60–90 days.
📚 My book Atlas of UFOs is available now. Grab your copy here: geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs
David Grusch has given a major new interview, and the biggest takeaway may not be the UFO files themselves. In this episode, Andy is joined by Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother to break down Grusch’s comments on serious movement within 60 to 90 days, Kash Patel saying UFO files have been delivered, Barack Obama walking back alien comments, the pastor disclosure rumours, AARO, hostile witnesses, MKUltra, Bob Lazar, Lue Elizondo’s delayed book and what may be happening behind the scenes.
Dan's pod - youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast
Grusch interview - youtube.com/watch?v=Q3BpTZXmDns&t=4187s
Timestamps
00:00 Grusch’s 60–90 Day Warning
00:31 Breaking News UFO Update
02:04 Why Grusch Chose Judicial Watch
04:36 A Different Kind Of Grusch Interview
07:07 Why Grusch’s Background Matters
09:03 The Security Mafia And Hidden Maze
12:10 Grusch: Craft And Bodies Exist
15:47 Immaculate Constellation Clarified
17:44 Why Disclosure Needs A Real Plan
23:01 Did AARO Avoid The Right Questions?
25:12 Why Site Visits May Not Work
29:44 The 46 UFO Videos Coming Soon
31:27 McCasland Named As Hostile Witness
32:46 Grusch Puts A Timeline On Disclosure
36:45 Why This Interview Is Worth Watching
38:11 Obama Walks Back Alien Comments
41:43 Obama, Colbert And UFO Secrecy
43:03 Have Contractors Taken Control?
44:17 Kash Patel Says UFO Files Are Ready
45:15 Pastors Briefed On Disclosure?
49:14 Burlison Responds To The Rumours
52:30 Who Should Be Briefed First?
53:46 Why Is Congress Hearing About MKUltra?
59:22 Quick UFO News Roundup
59:30 Bob Lazar Returns To Area 52
01:02:44 Lue Elizondo’s Book Delayed
01:03:57 The Reckoning Blurb Breakdown
01:07:24 Lue Elizondo’s Credibility Question
01:09:38 Hero, Villain, Or Something Else?
01:10:09 Making Money Or Grifting?
01:12:42 Pastors, Demons And Disclosure
01:14:28 Did Interdimensionals Create Us?
01:17:09 The Hardest Truths To Handle
01:20:01 What Could Be In The Vatican Archives?
01:22:40 Would Other Countries Follow Disclosure?
01:24:17 Blue Beam And False Flag Fears
01:27:51 UFO Files, GTA VI Or Lue’s Book?
01:29:27 What Should Congress Ask Next?
01:32:26 Who Should Announce Disclosure?
01:34:15 Fertility Rates And UK Frustrations
01:37:45 James Webb’s Classified Missions
01:39:26 Final Thoughts And Plugs
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UPDATE: With the first UFO files expected today, this conversation now feels even more relevant. Grusch suggested the files may not be the main event, and that bigger movement could come within 60–90 days.
📚 My book Atlas of UFOs is available now. Grab your copy here: geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs
David Grusch has given a major new interview, and the biggest takeaway may not be the UFO files themselves. In this episode, Andy is joined by Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother to break down Grusch’s comments on serious movement within 60 to 90 days, Kash Patel saying UFO files have been delivered, Barack Obama walking back alien comments, the pastor disclosure rumours, AARO, hostile witnesses, MKUltra, Bob Lazar, Lue Elizondo’s delayed book and what may be happening behind the scenes.
Dan's pod - youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast
Grusch interview - youtube.com/watch?v=Q3BpTZXmDns&t=4187s
Timestamps
00:00 Grusch’s 60–90 Day Warning
00:31 Breaking News UFO Update
02:04 Why Grusch Chose Judicial Watch
04:36 A Different Kind Of Grusch Interview
07:07 Why Grusch’s Background Matters
09:03 The Security Mafia And Hidden Maze
12:10 Grusch: Craft And Bodies Exist
15:47 Immaculate Constellation Clarified
17:44 Why Disclosure Needs A Real Plan
23:01 Did AARO Avoid The Right Questions?
25:12 Why Site Visits May Not Work
29:44 The 46 UFO Videos Coming Soon
31:27 McCasland Named As Hostile Witness
32:46 Grusch Puts A Timeline On Disclosure
36:45 Why This Interview Is Worth Watching
38:11 Obama Walks Back Alien Comments
41:43 Obama, Colbert And UFO Secrecy
43:03 Have Contractors Taken Control?
44:17 Kash Patel Says UFO Files Are Ready
45:15 Pastors Briefed On Disclosure?
49:14 Burlison Responds To The Rumours
52:30 Who Should Be Briefed First?
53:46 Why Is Congress Hearing About MKUltra?
59:22 Quick UFO News Roundup
59:30 Bob Lazar Returns To Area 52
01:02:44 Lue Elizondo’s Book Delayed
01:03:57 The Reckoning Blurb Breakdown
01:07:24 Lue Elizondo’s Credibility Question
01:09:38 Hero, Villain, Or Something Else?
01:10:09 Making Money Or Grifting?
01:12:42 Pastors, Demons And Disclosure
01:14:28 Did Interdimensionals Create Us?
01:17:09 The Hardest Truths To Handle
01:20:01 What Could Be In The Vatican Archives?
01:22:40 Would Other Countries Follow Disclosure?
01:24:17 Blue Beam And False Flag Fears
01:27:51 UFO Files, GTA VI Or Lue’s Book?
01:29:27 What Should Congress Ask Next?
01:32:26 Who Should Announce Disclosure?
01:34:15 Fertility Rates And UK Frustrations
01:37:45 James Webb’s Classified Missions
01:39:26 Final Thoughts And Plugs
🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
