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trinities.org/blog/podcast-355-dr-steven-nemes-on-trinity-theories-part-2 In this second half of our wide-ranging conversation inspired by his epic tweet thread on Trinity theories, our topics include: the “Persons” of the Trinity as modes, the New Testament authors as “primitive” theologians, divine simplicity, “social” Trinity theories, divine processions or lack thereof, mythological tales about what the three Persons before creation, the misfit between Scriptural language and trinitarian language, what I call “the problem of the missing Amigo,” standards of intellectual rigor in theology, “the Trinity” as a shibboleth, the recent idea that to show his solidarity with us God himself died on the cross for us, the traditional idea of divine impassibility, mysterian defenses of trinitarian traditions, how we could know what exactly it is that The Tradition demands about “the Trinity,” how Trinity theories relate to religious freedom, Roman Catholics’ relatively recent embrace of religious freedom and tolerance, why Dr. Nemes considers himself to be a post-catholic theologian, religious minorities in traditionally Eastern Orthodox countries like Romania and Russia, God’s allowing theological and practical errors within mainstream Christianity, how we should view the “ecumenical creeds,” how “consensus” was reached at the end of the “Arian” controversy, converts to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Dr. Nemes’ view that Trinity theories should be viewed as tolerable opinions but not dogma, paradigm shifts, the value of reason and reasonable arguments in theology, odium theologicum, and apologetics as trash-talking the “heretics.”
Thanks to Dr. Nemes for a good conversation!
Links for this episode @ trinities.org/blog/podcast-355-dr-steven-nemes-on-trinity-theories-part-2
image: 9th c. image of the emperor Constantine having “Arian” books burned (credit)
Dr. Nemes’s website
Dr. Nemes @ Twitter
Dr. Nemes’s Tweet thread which inspired this conversation.
Barth & Rahner on the Trinity
divine simplicity
Classical Theism: Is God Personal Like Us? Ryan Mullins + Steven Nemes
podcast 145 – ‘Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!
podcast 31 – Dr. William Hasker on the “Arian” Controversy
podcast 22 – a cure for odium theologicum
podcast 271 – Does your Trinity theory require relative identity?
“There is no salvation outside the Church.”
10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity – #6 get a date – part 2
Wolfhart Pannenberg
podcast 248 – How Trinity theories conflict with the Bible
How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament
the evolution of my views on the Trinity
James 3:13-18
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "La Bella" by Mr. Smith. freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith/guitarista/la-bella
trinities.org/blog/podcast-355-dr-steven-nemes-on-trinity-theories-part-2 In this second half of our wide-ranging conversation inspired by his epic tweet thread on Trinity theories, our topics include: the “Persons” of the Trinity as modes, the New Testament authors as “primitive” theologians, divine simplicity, “social” Trinity theories, divine processions or lack thereof, mythological tales about what the three Persons before creation, the misfit between Scriptural language and trinitarian language, what I call “the problem of the missing Amigo,” standards of intellectual rigor in theology, “the Trinity” as a shibboleth, the recent idea that to show his solidarity with us God himself died on the cross for us, the traditional idea of divine impassibility, mysterian defenses of trinitarian traditions, how we could know what exactly it is that The Tradition demands about “the Trinity,” how Trinity theories relate to religious freedom, Roman Catholics’ relatively recent embrace of religious freedom and tolerance, why Dr. Nemes considers himself to be a post-catholic theologian, religious minorities in traditionally Eastern Orthodox countries like Romania and Russia, God’s allowing theological and practical errors within mainstream Christianity, how we should view the “ecumenical creeds,” how “consensus” was reached at the end of the “Arian” controversy, converts to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Dr. Nemes’ view that Trinity theories should be viewed as tolerable opinions but not dogma, paradigm shifts, the value of reason and reasonable arguments in theology, odium theologicum, and apologetics as trash-talking the “heretics.”
Thanks to Dr. Nemes for a good conversation!
Links for this episode @ trinities.org/blog/podcast-355-dr-steven-nemes-on-trinity-theories-part-2
image: 9th c. image of the emperor Constantine having “Arian” books burned (credit)
Dr. Nemes’s website
Dr. Nemes @ Twitter
Dr. Nemes’s Tweet thread which inspired this conversation.
Barth & Rahner on the Trinity
divine simplicity
Classical Theism: Is God Personal Like Us? Ryan Mullins + Steven Nemes
podcast 145 – ‘Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!
podcast 31 – Dr. William Hasker on the “Arian” Controversy
podcast 22 – a cure for odium theologicum
podcast 271 – Does your Trinity theory require relative identity?
“There is no salvation outside the Church.”
10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity – #6 get a date – part 2
Wolfhart Pannenberg
podcast 248 – How Trinity theories conflict with the Bible
How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament
the evolution of my views on the Trinity
James 3:13-18
Weekly podcast exploring views about the Trinity, and more generally about God and Jesus in Christian theology and philosophy. Debates, interviews, and historical and contemporary perspectives. Hosted by philosopher of religion / analytic theologian Dr. Dale Tuggy.
This week's thinking music is "La Bella" by Mr. Smith. freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith/guitarista/la-bella
