Uploaded February 2021 | Updated September 2026, 2 days ago
With quick movement and some good luck, it's possible to simply knock the archer down rather than killing him in the water, as you can get onto the rope quickly enough that by the time he takes aim at you, you're too high up for him to shoot.
You can hear him draw the bow back as I'm on the rope, but he doesn't shoot.
You can do the same thing with a sidehop to doge his first shot.
Don't really recommend this, but it's still cool.
With quick movement and some good luck, it's possible to simply knock the archer down rather than killing him in the water, as you can get onto the rope quickly enough that by the time he takes aim at you, you're too high up for him to shoot.
You can hear him draw the bow back as I'm on the rope, but he doesn't shoot.
You can do the same thing with a sidehop to doge his first shot.
Don't really recommend this, but it's still cool.
![Twilight Princess: Argorok 2 cycle with rare chu jelly [Wii]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LBPru7Av3vw/mqdefault.jpg "Twilight Princess: Argorok 2 cycle with rare chu jelly [Wii]
Using the double damage from Fairys tears or rare chu jelly, its possible to skip the third cycle of Argoroks second phase.
Used svas method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL2Nvn9sepA
This is very slightly different on Wii since to drink the jelly or tears you need to have the bottle on B, and so then need to equip clawshot back to B either with the d-pad equips or pause menu, before clawshotting. Drinking the jelly/tears doesnt make link put away the clawshots however, so you dont have to go through the animation of pulling out clawshot, which would waste a handful of frames making the 2-cycle much harder.
In this clip I timed flipping clawshots back to B with the d-pad, and pressed B immediately after to clawshot. This can be very quick, so I want to say ideally Wii would only lose 1 frame to gamecube, but in reality itd be a few frames to timing the equip, then a couple more to clawshotting. This makes the 2-cycle marginally more difficult on Wii than gamecube (not that Ive ever done it on gamecube).
I had the most success pause buffering to when Argorok just begins to shoot the flame.
Originally discovered by dragonbane0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASY_ooj1OxM
Dragonbanes improved method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGz2UgerQr4
Mainly made this video so if anyone else tries to learn it on Wii they dont have to mirror a gamecube video and get confused with which pillar to go to etc.")
![TP: City in the Sky Skip Turning on Fan to Tower [Wii]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LolLkeHEAfg/mqdefault.jpg "TP: City in the Sky Skip Turning on Fan to Tower [Wii]
Using some precise clawshots its possible to make it across without the fan or the use of any LJAs
Discovered by Deanmachine/Pokemongenius
Clawshotting at the top of these fans from the same height or above will cause Link to grab the ledge rather than hang off the grill. Using this fact with clever positioning and aiming you can make it all the way across.
- First clawshot high up on the large fan grill and aim down to get on top of the first fan
- From there clawshot across to the second fan.
The third fan you need to grab onto very top corner, as you need to be at the very highest part of the grill to be able to clawshot to the final fan and grab the ledge rather than simply grabbing onto the grill (just getting to the grill isnt enough as the platform below it is broken as if to protect against this). However if you go to the very top corner from the top of the second fan youll just grab the ledge, so you need to
- clawshot to the top of the third fan (has to be the top
- then back to the bottom area of the second fan
- and from there you can then aim at the top far corner (height is more important than aiming to the very very edge) and if done correctly youll be able to reach the final fan.
You need to grab the ledge of the third fan before clawshotting back to the second fan as its only possible to reach the final fan when aiming with Links right hand (Wii orientation) and this lines up the grabs nicely for that purpose.
Timed as approximately the same speed as turning on the fan to get across, however theres much more variance due to precise aim, 1 hand vs. 2 hand grab rng, and the Kargaroks who love to come and bother Link. With very fast aim its theoretically possible to be a few seconds faster, though not something Id personally do in runs (maybe worth a shot for ILs eventually).
Normal timing video (w/o 1 frame cs drop): https://youtu.be/dgAE-5ZNrKs
Fan skip timing video: https://youtu.be/Uz7dDb-Q0ds
If you dont manage to grab the ledge of the final fan it doesnt matter too much, you can just clawshot back to the third fan and from the ledge of that its possible to make it to the final platform with a sidehop or a roll with a jumpslash.
Deanmachine brought this up a little while ago as in his childhood playthrough he could never find the fan switch, and yet managed to get past without any glitches and beat the game. He couldnt remember how, but was certain hed done it (https://clips.twitch.tv/DeliciousEnthusiasticTroutCoolStoryBob).
This led to Pokemongenius looking into it and finding how to get across :D
ZSR: https://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tp/dungeon/city-in-the-sky#skip-turning-fans-on")
![TP: Snowpeak Wolfos Superjump [GC]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O37s8dzqR1M/mqdefault.jpg "TP: Snowpeak Wolfos Superjump [GC]
Idea by dragonbane0, discovered by Ekke, improved setup for rta by gymnast
Higher quality version: https://youtu.be/7H2g9oHjcLs
Just because I havent seen anyone with a video of gyms method on the original version yet. Works on Wii too: https://youtu.be/R1z7B-R-pNw
https://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tp/msb/early-snowpeak#early-snowpeak-superjump
https://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tphd/msb/early-snowpeak")
