Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
The 4.5 hour phone call that changed everything. 🥹
You guys… I have NOT stayed up talking on the phone until 4am since probably high school. 😂😭
But there was something so different about this conversation. It wasn’t surface level. It wasn’t “trying to impress each other.” It honestly felt like two humans just fully seeing each other. Mess, history, pain, awkwardness, all of it. 🩷
And one of the things that impacted me most looking back on this whole season was realizing how powerful it is when someone feels safe enough to tell you the truth… and how healing it can be to respond with, “I have your back.” 🥹
No fixing.No saving.No judgment.Just being there for another human in a really hard season.
I think so many of us are walking around terrified that if people really knew us, they’d leave. And this connection taught me how healing it is to be fully honest and fully seen. ✨
This episode is Ryan + I sharing the very real, messy, vulnerable middle of how we found each other… and to be honest, it still feels surreal to tell this story out loud. 🫶🏻
👉🏻Comment “LINK” and I’ll send the full episode to your DMs. 💌
The 4.5 hour phone call that changed everything. 🥹
You guys… I have NOT stayed up talking on the phone until 4am since probably high school. 😂😭
But there was something so different about this conversation. It wasn’t surface level. It wasn’t “trying to impress each other.” It honestly felt like two humans just fully seeing each other. Mess, history, pain, awkwardness, all of it. 🩷
And one of the things that impacted me most looking back on this whole season was realizing how powerful it is when someone feels safe enough to tell you the truth… and how healing it can be to respond with, “I have your back.” 🥹
No fixing.No saving.No judgment.Just being there for another human in a really hard season.
I think so many of us are walking around terrified that if people really knew us, they’d leave. And this connection taught me how healing it is to be fully honest and fully seen. ✨
This episode is Ryan + I sharing the very real, messy, vulnerable middle of how we found each other… and to be honest, it still feels surreal to tell this story out loud. 🫶🏻
👉🏻Comment “LINK” and I’ll send the full episode to your DMs. 💌
