Superdavo0001 | [TAS] SM64: Treasure Of The Ocean Cave 18"33 [Outdated] @Superdavo0001 | Uploaded 6 years ago | Updated 3 hours ago
18"43 by Mickey/VIS: youtu.be/xL6VE_5PddM?t=41m38s
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18"33 by me
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[UPDATE] 18"30 by me: youtu.be/9lbPa07tyJc
In this run, I collect the star "Treasure Of The Ocean Cave" 3 frames (0.1 seconds) faster than the previous world record. The saves were as follows:
• Saved 2f by staying out of the water (and so not losing 3/4 of my speed) for an extra frame
• Saved 1f at the end by activating the final chest a frame earlier (mainly because I was able to dive 2f earlier than the previous best)
I actually did it... I beat a star in the 120-star TAS! And by 3 frames!
I actually started work on this way back in June. I quickly spotted the potential of the first save, and worked to try to complete the star. Unfortunately, without realising, I immediately lost one of the frames to bad movement in the water, so I only thought there was potential to save 1 frame. I then struggled to keep hold of that frame, and got frustrated & gave up.
However, quite recently, with the new 120-star TAS in full-swing and Kaze's Ghost Data hack now available (and my skills much-improved), I became motivated to try again. I re-did everything after the BLJ, and realised there was a second frame up for grabs (the theoretical max this technique could give is 3 frames, but practical limits reduce it to ~2.5). With the ghost data as reference, and a 2 frame lead, I continued to progress through the TAS. At the end, presumably due to improved optimisation around the third chest, I realised I could dive much earlier, and activate the last chest a frame earlier, taking my total to 3 frames as I finished the run.
I would explain everything about this TAS, but it'd take too much space. If you have any questions, ask in the comments!
One thing that is worth explaining is the ending - due to my choice of angle, I couldn't replicate the previous WR's ending (I can't kick off the wall). However, that ending route doesn't actually save time, rather, it just looks cool, so I went for an alternative. Interestingly, this actually brings me rather close to saving another frame! The backflip I did allowed me to gain more height before the ground-pound, meaning I have more VS when I collect the star. This causes me to fall quicker, but it just isn't enough to save an extra frame. Backflips also have fixed vertical speed, which means I can't manipulate speed to allow me to hit the star lower, unlike an ordinary jump (which doesn't go high enough to get max VS anyway).
A couple of important things to note:
• I didn't actually branch off the 120 star TAS until the start of the BLJ, so the inputs before then are still those done by Mickey/VIS.
• This video was run on the SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 ROMHack, by Kaze Emanuar. It actually incurs a lag frame shortly after entering the water, so the timing based on this video would actually be 18"35. However, I've also run the TAS on regular SM64, and this lag frame didn't occur. I guess it must be because of the extra object on-screen...
If you want the .m64 for whatever reason, just ask me :-)
SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 (note that there are updated versions available): youtu.be/kwlSfQ_7vrk
Rerecords: 5,417 (estimate)
18"43 by Mickey/VIS: youtu.be/xL6VE_5PddM?t=41m38s
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18"33 by me
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[UPDATE] 18"30 by me: youtu.be/9lbPa07tyJc
In this run, I collect the star "Treasure Of The Ocean Cave" 3 frames (0.1 seconds) faster than the previous world record. The saves were as follows:
• Saved 2f by staying out of the water (and so not losing 3/4 of my speed) for an extra frame
• Saved 1f at the end by activating the final chest a frame earlier (mainly because I was able to dive 2f earlier than the previous best)
I actually did it... I beat a star in the 120-star TAS! And by 3 frames!
I actually started work on this way back in June. I quickly spotted the potential of the first save, and worked to try to complete the star. Unfortunately, without realising, I immediately lost one of the frames to bad movement in the water, so I only thought there was potential to save 1 frame. I then struggled to keep hold of that frame, and got frustrated & gave up.
However, quite recently, with the new 120-star TAS in full-swing and Kaze's Ghost Data hack now available (and my skills much-improved), I became motivated to try again. I re-did everything after the BLJ, and realised there was a second frame up for grabs (the theoretical max this technique could give is 3 frames, but practical limits reduce it to ~2.5). With the ghost data as reference, and a 2 frame lead, I continued to progress through the TAS. At the end, presumably due to improved optimisation around the third chest, I realised I could dive much earlier, and activate the last chest a frame earlier, taking my total to 3 frames as I finished the run.
I would explain everything about this TAS, but it'd take too much space. If you have any questions, ask in the comments!
One thing that is worth explaining is the ending - due to my choice of angle, I couldn't replicate the previous WR's ending (I can't kick off the wall). However, that ending route doesn't actually save time, rather, it just looks cool, so I went for an alternative. Interestingly, this actually brings me rather close to saving another frame! The backflip I did allowed me to gain more height before the ground-pound, meaning I have more VS when I collect the star. This causes me to fall quicker, but it just isn't enough to save an extra frame. Backflips also have fixed vertical speed, which means I can't manipulate speed to allow me to hit the star lower, unlike an ordinary jump (which doesn't go high enough to get max VS anyway).
A couple of important things to note:
• I didn't actually branch off the 120 star TAS until the start of the BLJ, so the inputs before then are still those done by Mickey/VIS.
• This video was run on the SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 ROMHack, by Kaze Emanuar. It actually incurs a lag frame shortly after entering the water, so the timing based on this video would actually be 18"35. However, I've also run the TAS on regular SM64, and this lag frame didn't occur. I guess it must be because of the extra object on-screen...
If you want the .m64 for whatever reason, just ask me :-)
SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 (note that there are updated versions available): youtu.be/kwlSfQ_7vrk
Rerecords: 5,417 (estimate)
![[TAS] SM64: Treasure Of The Ocean Cave 1833 [Outdated]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bAFwAKyhkLw/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SM64: Treasure Of The Ocean Cave 1833 [Outdated]
1843 by Mickey/VIS: https://youtu.be/xL6VE_5PddM?t=41m38s
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1833 by me
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[UPDATE] 1830 by me: https://youtu.be/9lbPa07tyJc
In this run, I collect the star Treasure Of The Ocean Cave 3 frames (0.1 seconds) faster than the previous world record. The saves were as follows:
• Saved 2f by staying out of the water (and so not losing 3/4 of my speed) for an extra frame
• Saved 1f at the end by activating the final chest a frame earlier (mainly because I was able to dive 2f earlier than the previous best)
I actually did it... I beat a star in the 120-star TAS! And by 3 frames!
I actually started work on this way back in June. I quickly spotted the potential of the first save, and worked to try to complete the star. Unfortunately, without realising, I immediately lost one of the frames to bad movement in the water, so I only thought there was potential to save 1 frame. I then struggled to keep hold of that frame, and got frustrated & gave up.
However, quite recently, with the new 120-star TAS in full-swing and Kazes Ghost Data hack now available (and my skills much-improved), I became motivated to try again. I re-did everything after the BLJ, and realised there was a second frame up for grabs (the theoretical max this technique could give is 3 frames, but practical limits reduce it to ~2.5). With the ghost data as reference, and a 2 frame lead, I continued to progress through the TAS. At the end, presumably due to improved optimisation around the third chest, I realised I could dive much earlier, and activate the last chest a frame earlier, taking my total to 3 frames as I finished the run.
I would explain everything about this TAS, but itd take too much space. If you have any questions, ask in the comments!
One thing that is worth explaining is the ending - due to my choice of angle, I couldnt replicate the previous WRs ending (I cant kick off the wall). However, that ending route doesnt actually save time, rather, it just looks cool, so I went for an alternative. Interestingly, this actually brings me rather close to saving another frame! The backflip I did allowed me to gain more height before the ground-pound, meaning I have more VS when I collect the star. This causes me to fall quicker, but it just isnt enough to save an extra frame. Backflips also have fixed vertical speed, which means I cant manipulate speed to allow me to hit the star lower, unlike an ordinary jump (which doesnt go high enough to get max VS anyway).
A couple of important things to note:
• I didnt actually branch off the 120 star TAS until the start of the BLJ, so the inputs before then are still those done by Mickey/VIS.
• This video was run on the SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 ROMHack, by Kaze Emanuar. It actually incurs a lag frame shortly after entering the water, so the timing based on this video would actually be 1835. However, Ive also run the TAS on regular SM64, and this lag frame didnt occur. I guess it must be because of the extra object on-screen...
If you want the .m64 for whatever reason, just ask me :-)
SM64 Ghost Race V1.1 (note that there are updated versions available): https://youtu.be/kwlSfQ_7vrk
Rerecords: 5,417 (estimate)")
![[TAS] SM64: BBH Eye-To-Eye In The Secret Room CCCLess 9626 (Raw TAS) [PU Route]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bYbzoxgSZBM/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SM64: BBH Eye-To-Eye In The Secret Room CCCLess 9626 (Raw TAS) [PU Route]
This is the raw version - unabridged, and lacking overlay, for the purists out there. The other versions can be found at:
Unabridged version (with overlay): https://youtu.be/Do3TwRzLFzI
Abridged version version: https://youtu.be/_0vkAUp8If8
In this TAS, I collect the star Eye To Eye In The Secret Room in Big Boos Haunt, without collecting any coins, or using caps or cannons, in what is known as the CCCless Challenge. The main challenge of this particular level is the fact that theres a painting which youre supposed to use a vanish-cap to collect, but of course we cant do that!
Initially, this problem was solved by using Hyper-Speed Wall-Kicks (HSWK) to gain enough speed to clip through the painting, but this is very slow, and takes a long time to build up the required speed.
Since HSWK was discovered, and CCCLess was forgotten about in this level, the Parallel Universes glitch was discovered in SM64. In short, due to integer overflow in Marios position used for floor detection, there are a (near) infinite number of infinite duplicate versions of the course (without objects & stuff), which can be reached by gaining a large amount of speed. I wont explain the full technical details of navigating PUs here, but Ill link to a video that does. Needless to say, by moving from point-to-point across PUs, you can travel to any arbitrary point in the map laterally quite quickly.
However, because the painting is quite high, we need vertical motion as well, and conveniently, a side-effect of the PU glitch - the Overflow Jump (OJ) can help us. Basically, when Mario jumps, while moving at high-speed, he incurs a vertical displacement related to his speed. When hes moving backwards at QPU speed, he can reach speeds fast enough to fall into PUs *below* his current location. When this happens, he immediately snaps up onto the nearest floor relatively below him in the QPU grid, which can be anywhere, with correct planning.
The PU route used here was found by Timestoppa - I just executed it optimally.
Anyway, heres a detailed look at what happened in the TAS:
• First, I navigate to the elevator, and activate it as quick as possible. Since I made this, I found out that 2 frames can be saved between the start and reaching the door, by long-jumping once, then diving (shoutouts to Luigihaxd for spotting that).
• While the elevators falling, I kill the Mr I. I didnt need to do this, but I had time to kill, so I decided to kill with my time. He never stood a chance.
• Once the elevator hits the ground, I activate it again on the first frame possible, so it starts to rise. Once Im on it, I mess around a bit, and move to the correct position for the start of the PU movement.
• I then BLJ, gaining ~4,147,200 speed. To do this optimally, I needed to very precisely get the correct speed immediately (so I dont have to lose any, and waste frames). This was very a tedious process, but it allowed me to start the PU movement immediately.
• Once I have the required speed, I perform an OJ. This takes me to PU (-9, 9), and to the top of the balcony relatively.
• Next, I drop my speed, first by jumping, then punching. Unfortunately, due to the route, this takes a long time.
• I then perform two more PU movements, in quick succession, taking me first to PU (-1, 1), and relatively on the balcony, then back to the main map inside the secret room.
• I then kill the big Mr I. Unfortunately, the camera became stuck in the elevator room, so I had to TAS this bit blind. Fortunately, its possible to hack the camera during TASing, so I could - to some extent - see what I was doing. This was still very tedious, and probably not quite optimal.
• I then collect the star.
An explanation of PU movements more subtle details can be found in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
Rerecords: 1896
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![[SM64 Hack TAS] Another Mario Adventure: Mess In The House in 2387](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cRztFb6lXck/hqdefault.jpg "[SM64 Hack TAS] Another Mario Adventure: Mess In The House in 2387
My playlist of TAS runs: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbYjr0fKUh3qCSR9CMqyJGhMcaObah7wU
My Twitter (where I often post minor TAS stuff): https://twitter.com/superdavo0001
Super Mario 64 TASing/ABC Discord server: https://discord.gg/ECskvyF
ROMHack Info:
Name: Another Mario Adventure
Creator: Aglab2 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC77uQeQh3PVdbI4usjFg1rA)
Im back!
Apologies for the lack of videos recently, a lot of other projects have been taking up much of my time. Hopefully I should have a bit more time for a while now!
Ive been wanting to return to doing singlestars for a while, but my inspiration in Ztar Attack Rebooted was beginning to run low and I fancied working on something else. Fortunately, aglab2 (the creator of Ztar Attack Rebooted) recently released this new hack, and after playing it through, I was not only impressed, but also ready to TAS some stars :)
The hack itself is very well made, with a variety of level designs & many custom-coded features, all polished to near-perfection. The variety is further increased by the 10 guest-levels made by prominent members of the ROMHacking community (BroDute, Tomatobird8, UsernamesAreSpiders, scuttlebug_raiser, sm64pie, Cheezepin, Crash, MrComit, ToasterKetchup & Kaze Emanuar to be exact). With so much variety & so many new things to try out, I was spoilt for choice, with plenty of stars to TAS!
I decided to start with this star, mainly because it was one of the first interesting gimmick stars I came across. The idea here is that you are restricted to moving in 2d (within the section of the room with green tiles), but if you press L you can traverse the level in 3d, but your health quickly depletes, so if you spend too long doing this you die, like in Super Paper Mario). This level is fairly easy to beat in casual play, but still manages to make you think differently to a standard SM64 level. Unfortunately the camera always changes to very specific angles when switching between 2d & 3d, which can be pretty annoying since you might want a different angle, so youd have to change it back.
Unsurprisingly, this sort of feature in the hands of a TASer can lead to some fun stuff! :D The route for collecting the secrets seems pretty intuitive, and I couldnt think of any other viable options. The BLJ was pretty awkward since I had to kick near the end of the high platform to reach the secret & spend a long time falling, but I couldnt find any way around it. Being able to dive+recover in the gap would solve this but the speed required to do this doesnt allow enough time to turn to the correct angle to hit the secret (since Marios speed affects his 3d position even in 2d mode).
This TAS is probably improvable, perhaps even by a significant amount. Im still happy with the result though! Ive found a fair few more stars I want to TAS as well, so make sure you subscribe so you dont miss them :)
Total re-records: 2,260")
![[TAS] Super Mario 64 - Swingin In The Breeze In 1103 By Superdavo0001, Dargos & Snark122](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f8xM5fbwUsU/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario 64 - Swingin In The Breeze In 1103 By Superdavo0001, Dargos & Snark122
• 1110 By Snark122 (also 1117 from 2012): https://youtu.be/NamWHywBEBY?t=3m30s
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• 1107 by Dargos: https://youtu.be/HY0Qte37G_I
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• 1103 By Superdavo0001 & Dargos
* Dar Gos Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEgfodfjfo3J-bUAHrwl0Lw
* Snark122s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyoAdfPdT100F12BmXDUpbw
* TimeTravelPenguins Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUMWpmbkD0HvkgFC0BqrTFw
In this video, the star Swingin In The Breeze (in Rainbow Ride) is collected 2 frames faster than the previous record by Snark, and 1 frame faster than a run created by Dargos earlier today. This was achieved by fully optimising the new movement strat used in the original 1f save.
As was the case for our recent BitFS save, this was done in collaboration with the legendary Dargos, and we both contributed important details that led to this save.
In fact, this save happened in a remarkably similar way to the BitFS improvement (at least if you in include Plushs initial 1f save as an equivalent to Dargos initial 1f save).
It began with TimeTravelPenguin investigating the star. He asked Snark for his files, and tried to find a way to save time. Unfortunately, his searches didnt find anything improvable, but led me & Dargos to look at Snarks original run more closely. We found that he used some rather unusual movement, which didnt look like it should be optimal, shortly after the ledgegrab. TimeTravelPenguin gave us Snarks run to look at, and Dargos realised that it should be faster to grind continually instead of recovering (Snarks recovery had significantly less speed, costing a lot of distance). When he TASed the run, he found that it saved a frame, and put him quite close to saving an additional frame.
Once Dargos posted that run, I decided to look through it & see whether he did anything that could be improved, and I found a couple of things. The main one was that he took a dust-frame during the initial grind. While this was useful in BitFS, that was only because we couldnt do perfect qframe grinding otherwise. Dargos assumed the same to be true here, and so took the dust-frame to avoid having to take a 1/4 transition. However, I realised that this was actually not the case, and was able to achieve a perfect qf grind. Dargos also jumped for 1 frame before diving to reach the axle (there was probably a reason for this in his run), when it would be faster to dive immediately.
I then fixed all these details, and tried to save a frame with them. Unfortunately though, I was unable to land on the axle a frame earlier, which was needed to save the frame.
Dargos then looked into this, and found that I was just 0.6 units (subject to correct speed manipulation on the jumpdive) from saving the frame, and set to work trying to save them. As was the case in BitFS, he managed to save just enough distance to save the frame, though its still within a unit or so.
It really is weird just how similar the progression of this star is to the progression of BitFS - in both cases, a slower movement was replaced with divegrinding, which saved a frame, then I found a way to save a qframe, then Dargos finished the save by finding tiny unit-level improvements.
Although this run improves Snarks TAS by 2 frames, it still contains his inputs up to the ledgegrab, and he is therefore still an author. Pretty much all of the inputs that follow (except the grind setup, which has a few frames of my inputs) were done by Dargos. However, as I found the bulk of the most recent frame save, we decided that I should upload the run. Massive thanks to Dargos for letting me upload this one :D
Special thanks to TimeTravelPenguin for , and to Snark122 for giving us TAS files to work from! Their channel links are at the top of this description, along with Dargos channel. Id recommend checking them all out, as theyve all been responsible for some awesome TASes!
Total re-records: 62,946 (2,527 by me & Dargos, the rest by Snark)")
