Drew Weatherton | [TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Royal Raceway Fast Lap - 45"25 @weatherton | Uploaded 3 years ago | Updated 6 hours ago
Last week I found a way to save ~0.4 on Royal Raceway by bouncing over the hill near the end. This saves time on both fast lap and 3-lap. I had been interested in revising the old "double shroom" strategy from the early 2000's. I was just doing some experimentation the initial bowl turn against Dan Burbanks's 46"16 when I realized I could save time there by dropping down and bouncing back out of the bowl turn. From there I decided to just keep going through the level. So, because of the spontaneity with which this flap TAS began, the first straightaway and turn is actually Dan's inputs. You can see when the ghosts separate, that is when I took over. I had intended to start from the beginning but now this is a great ghost to race for a future version.
The bowl cut bounce is realistically TAS-only as it's hard to regain speed quickly enough to stay ahead.
The single-shroom approach to the old double shroom spot benefits from the bounce up the hill (It delays the use of the shroom so it can last longer). For RTA, players would likely want to just shroom as soon as they get on the grass. If you do that, you will likely have the mushroom run out too soon to stay in the air and get the bounce off the grass hill. To overcome this, just bump the wall right before the mushroom runs out to get a slow fall and hit the grass to get a bounce. (RTA backup strat example here: youtu.be/KolyG1XaF0M)
The hill at the end has several options for clearing, some faster than others (details in my continuum video youtu.be/n5EFDRmqLRA)
Last week I found a way to save ~0.4 on Royal Raceway by bouncing over the hill near the end. This saves time on both fast lap and 3-lap. I had been interested in revising the old "double shroom" strategy from the early 2000's. I was just doing some experimentation the initial bowl turn against Dan Burbanks's 46"16 when I realized I could save time there by dropping down and bouncing back out of the bowl turn. From there I decided to just keep going through the level. So, because of the spontaneity with which this flap TAS began, the first straightaway and turn is actually Dan's inputs. You can see when the ghosts separate, that is when I took over. I had intended to start from the beginning but now this is a great ghost to race for a future version.
The bowl cut bounce is realistically TAS-only as it's hard to regain speed quickly enough to stay ahead.
The single-shroom approach to the old double shroom spot benefits from the bounce up the hill (It delays the use of the shroom so it can last longer). For RTA, players would likely want to just shroom as soon as they get on the grass. If you do that, you will likely have the mushroom run out too soon to stay in the air and get the bounce off the grass hill. To overcome this, just bump the wall right before the mushroom runs out to get a slow fall and hit the grass to get a bounce. (RTA backup strat example here: youtu.be/KolyG1XaF0M)
The hill at the end has several options for clearing, some faster than others (details in my continuum video youtu.be/n5EFDRmqLRA)
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Royal Raceway Fast Lap - 4525](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dJT9cZaNRDU/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Royal Raceway Fast Lap - 4525
Last week I found a way to save ~0.4 on Royal Raceway by bouncing over the hill near the end. This saves time on both fast lap and 3-lap. I had been interested in revising the old double shroom strategy from the early 2000s. I was just doing some experimentation the initial bowl turn against Dan Burbankss 4616 when I realized I could save time there by dropping down and bouncing back out of the bowl turn. From there I decided to just keep going through the level. So, because of the spontaneity with which this flap TAS began, the first straightaway and turn is actually Dans inputs. You can see when the ghosts separate, that is when I took over. I had intended to start from the beginning but now this is a great ghost to race for a future version.
The bowl cut bounce is realistically TAS-only as its hard to regain speed quickly enough to stay ahead.
The single-shroom approach to the old double shroom spot benefits from the bounce up the hill (It delays the use of the shroom so it can last longer). For RTA, players would likely want to just shroom as soon as they get on the grass. If you do that, you will likely have the mushroom run out too soon to stay in the air and get the bounce off the grass hill. To overcome this, just bump the wall right before the mushroom runs out to get a slow fall and hit the grass to get a bounce. (RTA backup strat example here: https://youtu.be/KolyG1XaF0M)
The hill at the end has several options for clearing, some faster than others (details in my continuum video https://youtu.be/n5EFDRmqLRA)")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Yoshi Valley - Play Around (150cc GP)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dUa_w1lFHfE/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Yoshi Valley - Play Around (150cc GP)
Had some fun with the big bounces across the canyon. Surprised I was able to spinout through that one wall. Will have to look into that one more later.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Toads Turnpike SC Flap 430](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eJ62BHCnxuI/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - Toads Turnpike SC Flap 430
This is a brand new fast lap strategy that only works on the Japanese 1.0 version of the game. This strategy was another collaboration between Forest64 and me. It works by crossing the finish line and then crossing back over the finish line but getting stuck in the wall on the same frame. So, this is a frame perfect trick (at least the part where you cross back over the finish line). It may be possible to get 427 but this may always soft lock the game as it means you finish a lap on the same frame as you get stuck.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - DKJP Outer Fence Miniturbo / Playaround](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eK-gC83Uf7U/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - DKJP Outer Fence Miniturbo / Playaround
Had to try to get an MT on the fence on the other side.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64, DKJP Non-SC(?) Strategy](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eUTD9fKJS9U/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64, DKJP Non-SC(?) Strategy
Poll at http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1376855161 if you want to vote.
Is this an acceptable Non-SC Strategy? I wonder what people think. I TASed this at this years Kart 64 / Goldeneye Virginia meet and a majority of the folks I showed it to thought it should be classified non-shortcut strategy. By my interpretation of the shortcut definition for the Mario Kart 64 speedrunning community, this appears to be a non-shortcut strategy to me. It also happens to be over a second faster than racing this section with the standard strategy.
For reference, here is the official description of shortcut versus non-shortcut racing on http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/faq.shtml :
What is a shortcut?
The principle of shortcuts actually started with the first kart (SMK). They were originally called tricks and were not distinguished from other times in SMK. At this MK64 site, we distinguish and separate non-SC and SC races and reserve the right to ask for proof. Anyhow, here it is guys.
- Jumping over ANY walls or fences. (LR, KD, TT, CM, MR, WS, DK, YV, RRo)
- Using the assistance of lakitu in any fashion. (TT, FS, RRa, DK, YV)
I would also like to answer the next logical question. What is legal in Non-Shortcut Racing?
- Cutting Grass or Sand either on flat ground or hills.
- Jumping unobstructed cracks or gaps.
- Using preprogrammed routes that were intended by the programmers such as KTBs tunnel.")
![[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - MMF GP SC, No Lakitu, No Pause Proof of Concept](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ezf5vDIsbgc/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Mario Kart 64 - MMF GP SC, No Lakitu, No Pause Proof of Concept
Sharing this because Ive referred to it in a few chats. This was something Forest and I figured was possible but hadnt confirmed. I actually did this proof of concept back in August, about two months before we discovered pausing strats.
This works because Im only within the out-of-bounds area on one frame (yes the grass I touch is coded a out-of-bounds), a physics frame where Im on the ground. Its actually barely possible to do it, but it saves a lot of time (especially in one player) because you dont have to spend time getting stuck and put down by Lakitu or rapidly pausing.
Assuming good CPU timing at end of lap 1 or 2, this is faster for 3-lap. Though 2-player pausing would get faster in-game time than this. Its worth noting even the 5858 2-player pausing TAS (which was done pretty quickly and could definitely be improved) is faster than the old TAS in real-time.
Also, note that the real-time could be improved by sacrificing in-game time. This is possible because normally each pause takes 3 frames (start, release, start) but each pause can actually be done in two frames (pause without A held, press A). So, especially in situations where you have a mushroom active, you can either not hold A at all (other than to un-pause) or you tap A every other frame (during the other players pause). Thus, that would speed-up real-time by roughly 33%. One other thing to note, its possible to spend less time off road on the last shortcut in that 5858, I just basically didnt feel like doing it because its a pain (involves a bounce off the fence, past the bridge).")
![[TAS] CM Lap Skip Alternate Approach Testing; Bowser (~2.0X Potential)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fluKdi0P5RI/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] CM Lap Skip Alternate Approach Testing; Bowser (~2.0X Potential)
Acute angle Weathertenko strat.")
